7" Compadre Hotter?

[berryman]

In the "Which Compadre" post down below, several folks say that the 7" coil is "hotter" than the current 5.5" and 8" coils. Does anyone know why the older 7" coil is hotter? Is it wound differently? Other explanation?

If it is in fact hotter than the two currently coils currently available, how much of a price premium should we expect to pay for one?

 

[REVIER]

In the "Which Compadre" post down below, several folks say that the 7" coil is "hotter" than the current 5.5" and 8" coils. Does anyone know why the older 7" coil is hotter? Is it wound differently? Other explanation?

If it is in fact hotter than the two currently coils currently available, how much of a price premium should we expect to pay for one?

It is not the coil, I believe it is probably the circuit board mounted in this older unit that makes it slightly "hotter".

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1310101,1313149

 

[SkiWhiz]

The 7" Compadre's could very well be hotter, but the current Compadre's are plenty hot. You can "warm" them up even more if you adjust the internal sensitivity pot. but I don't recommend it unless you are familiar doing such things as the pots. can be damaged if you are not careful.

 

[BarberBill]

I don't know about "hotter", but the 7" coil offers a touch more depth along with a bit better ground coverage versus the 5.75". Not sure that it's enough to really matter but the 7"concentric coil is a favortie of mine on all my Tesoros.
BB

 

[REVIER]

I also love the 7" coil.
It seems both laser-like in the way it can pick through heavy trash, AND large enough to not frustrate me when covering larger wide open areas.
The best of all worlds.

 

[Monte]

Through the years In have owned and/or handled dozens of Compadres, most with a 7" Concentric coil in the earlier days. They were not all the same.

I had one, at a time, and as a Tesoro Dealer I checked out those that came in before then went to the consumer. Often I would make sure things worked OK, but I'd also compare them against my own unit or one on display and, like many of the earlier-era Tesoro's, they could vary.

There can be variables due to:

1.. The internal components used and how tight a tolerance they used

2.. The calibrations that were performance at the factory.

3.. How tight the search coil performance is.

I think in the much more recent years Tesoro might have built their detectors with a little tighter control so there was less variation from specimen to specimen, but I know that early-on I would check out all the models that came it. I prefer a manually GB'ed detectors, so if a Bandido, for example, was a bit hotter than the Bandido I was using, the 'hot' model became mine and my former Bandido was sold as a used unit. Sometimes in a batch of models ordered, there would also be one or two weak, wimpy, poor performing units.

Since mid-'83 I used a 7" Concentric search coil on virtually every detector I owned, and I had very good results and success in the ghost towns and other places I searched, but .... I was also picky on the 7" coil I kept in my personal arsenal. I would try out every 7" coil I could, on my manual GB models and one or two preset units I also kept on-hand. Some coils were a little better than others.ost of the time very close, but I can get selective at times.

I always prefer to have and usually use a smaller-than-stock search coil. When they came out with their labeled 5.75 coil I got one to try. In measures 6" across, so I call it a 6" coil. Currently I have two of the 6" Concentric coils and one 7" Concentric coils. Working each of them on a Bandido II µMAX or an Outlaw, making sure the GB is proper with each coil mounted and with the Discrimination at minimum, I prefer both of the 6" coils to the 7". Not my much, but perhaps a half-inch improvement over the 7" I have.

Just too many slight differences in the detectors and coils alone to be certain, but I know I would personally prefer to use a Compadre with a 6" Concentric or a 7" Concentric than the 8" donut Concentric coil.

Monte

 

[berryman]

Monte: Any experience with the Super 7 coil and, if so, can you say how it compares with the standard 7" concentric coil?

 

[Monte]

Monte: Any experience with the Super 7 coil and, if so, can you say how it compares with the standard 7" concentric coil?

I preferred the Super 7 Inch over the 8", but I also liked the standard 7" Concentric over the 8". The Super 7 Inch just looked better, being thinner, and the internal design performed a little differently than the standard 7".

I will say that I had more problems or inconsistencies among a batch of 7" Concentric standard coils than I did with a small batch of Super 7 Inch coils. Comparing several of each I noted that the S7I seemed to get just a little better depth in more open areas, just a little, but I also had a little difficulty in trashier sites, especially those with more iron. My primary choices of sites are old places with a lot of iron, especially nails, and due to dense trash I have preferred smaller-than-stock search coils.

I liked the S7I for general hunting or even in mildly trashed places, but in dense iron I liked the standard 7" Concentric better. Today, in the more iron infested sites, I prefer the 6" Concentric coil [size=small](the one Tesoro calls 5.75)[/size]. Of course one of the issues with coil performance was that most of the detectors I used the S7I coil on were the newer circuitry designs, like the Shadow X2 which was basically a Silver Sabre µMAX, and other µMAX models with the Low-Noise/High-Gain circuitry. Most of them have a little challenge in dense iron compared with the earlier Tesoro's like the first two Bandido's, Silver Sabre II, Pantera, etc.

I haven't had a S7I coil for quiet a few years now or I'd do some comparisons with current models, like the Outlaw, against my standard 7" Concentric and 6" Concentric in some dense iron, but my guess is the performance would be as expected. Close to the standard 8" and 7" kind of like they are on their own, and still a good general-purpose coil.

Monte