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6x10 coil question

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I recently purchased a 5 inch hot heat coil. I used it a couple of times but being the stubborn person I am went back to the stock coil because I wanted to cover more area. I decided to put my stubborness asside after reading the great things that a smaller coil can do as far as trash seperation. I have hunted that last two days at an old local park by a lake with a small beach. This place has been pounded through the years. I fould 11 wheats 2 toe rings 1 v nickel (first one) lots of jeffersons and some clad using the small coil. I am sold. The question about the 6x10 will I get close to the same seperation as the 5" coil? Is it a big improvement over stock? or would my money be better spent somewhere else like a sunray probe?
 
I very seldom ever use anything but the 6 X 10 on
my MXT. Reason for me is that it simply covers more
ground without overlapping that much. I think with
the stock concentric coil, to be effective, an
overlap of 40-50% is creating good coverage. Maybe
an overlap of 10% with the DD. The seperation is
great,you can get in real close with this coil. Many
on this forum use the DD and are very happy.Definitely not a waste of money. BTW, it handles bad ground better. Best to you,Richard
 
Is the 6x10 more sensitive to smaller targets than the stock or about the same? One thing I noticed about the 5" coil is the amazing sensitivity to the smallest of metal targets. Bottom line is I am hoping to get a little more coverage and still have good sensitivity and seperation. Sounds like the 6x10 is the way to go.
 
The smaller the coil, the greater the sensitivity to small targets. This is because, to a small coil, any object looks "bigger" that the same object would to a larger coil. As far as sensitivity is concerned, there is only a very slight added sensitivity to very tiny objects with the 10x6 DD compared to the 950. As far as target separation is concerned, the 10x6 is excellent. It has to be remembered that a DD coil is sensitive along a very narrow band from tip to tip, and thus the detection "window" is very small. Personally, I use the 10x6 about 80% of the time. Hope this helps; HH jim
 
which is what your 5" Hot Head coil is. Just a label change.
I note in your post:
<STRONG>"I recently purchased a 5 inch hot heat coil. I used it a couple of times but being the stubborn person I am went back to the stock coil because I wanted to cover more area."</STRONG>... So, at some point you were interested in <EM>coverage</EM>, which is understandable. Justy remember, that even though the 5" coil is round in shape, it is still a Douible-D internal configuration.
<STRONG>"I decided to put my stubborness asside after reading the great things that a smaller coil can do as far as trash seperation. I have hunted that last two days at an old local park by a lake with a small beach. This place has been pounded through the years. I fould 11 wheats 2 toe rings 1 v nickel (first one) lots of jeffersons and some clad using the small coil. I am sold."</STRONG>.... You were wise to give it another chance to prove what it can do. Each coil can have it's strengths, to be sure. The 5" DD should be a standard coil in everyione's arsenal!
<STRONG>"The question about the 6x10 will I get close to the same seperation as the 5" coil?"</STRONG>.... Now, you didn't mention dealing with trash and such to want <EM>"separation"</EM> at the local park and beach. My reply here is .. NO, the 6x10 will NOT get the same separation as the 5" DD coil. I will qualify that a little by saying that <EM><STRONG><BIG>IF</STRONG></EM></BIG> you have two targets laying close to each other, and <BIG><STRONG><EM>IF</BIG></EM></STRONG> you approach these two targets and cross them with the same sweep angle with the 5" & 6x10" Double-D coils, you <STRONG><EM>MIGHT</STRONG></EM> have SIMILAR separation .... BUT ...<STRONG><EM><BIG>IF</STRONG></EM></BIG> you have other close by targets to the front or rear of those two 'test' targets, then the 5" DD coil will have superior separation because the 6x10" will have far more field to the front and rear of center and thus can be more prone to masking. Masking = No Spearation.
So, the 6x10 can do a better job than a similar-sized diameter coil that is concentric wound, but will not match the true separation of a smaller coil. Not the 5" EXcelerator/Hot Head DD or White's own 3x6 DD.
<STRONG>"Is it a big improvement over stock?"</STRONG>.... YES, in terms of separation and coverage. The greatest length diameter is close to the same, but the 6x10 has a little more <EM>coverage</EM> and better <EM>separation</EM> of the two similar-sized coils. However, the stock 950 has a little better depth than the 6x10.
<STRONG>".. or would my money be better spent somewhere else like a sunray probe?"</STRONG>.... You have the stock 950 for "general application" coverage, and the best small coil for hunting trashier sites, in my biased opinion. <img src="/metal/html/biggrin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":D">
So, since you have the better coil for separation, then the only thing I think you might want to have is a better coil for <EM>coverage</EM> when hunting more open sites (large parks or beaches) where there isn't a lot of masking trash. A larger coil where you will want coverage to cover the site better, and/or are just going after ALL targets in hopes of popping a decent low-conductive gold jewelry item or two.
For coverage I would suggest you look at one of three coils. White's new DD-1400, or one of the EXcelerator coils. I have and use the 12½" and 14". All three of these coils are of DD design and provide efficient coverage. If you hunt a lot of beaches, especially in the wet sand or shallow surf, then the EXcelerator coils have the 'edge' partially due to their open design. The solid-bottom coils, like the DD-1400 will have a greater tendancy to be bouyant, and also to 'suck-to-the-sand.' I never have a problem with the 12½" or 14" EXcelerator coils with 'floating' or 'sucking.'
Then, too, if you do not really have a <EM>need</EM> for a larger-than-stock coil, adding the DX-1 probe could be a worthwihile way to invest your $$$.
Happy Hunting. Enjoy your MXT and I know you will enjoy using the 5" DD. It might well become your preferred, most-used coil as mine has on my MXT.
<EM><STRONG>Monte
 
I find that I can cover more area with the 6X10
because of less coil overlap. Does real well in
sports fields. Target separation is good and the
MXT seems better balanced than with the stock coil.
Ever since I put on the 6x10 the stock coil has
been gathering dust while the 6x10 has been busy
in the field. Good choice of a coil in my opinion.
 
Wow!!! Ask and ye shall recieve. Thanks for your help guys. I think I am going to ponder my choices for a while. Only have another month or so to detect and the ground will be frozen. I did take the 5" coil out today for 4 hours at a park close to home. I found 1 gold ear ring, 2 quarters ,3 dimes ,17 pennys ,(No Wheats)and get this a whopping 32 nickels, This machine can really find nickels. I think a lot of detectorists leave these behind because they don't want to dig so much trash. I am really starting to develop a feel for them nickels they seem to blow your ears out. HH I will keep you posted.
 
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