5"dd round excellerator /vs/ 4x6 dd eliptical

[arizonaames]

What do you think would be the difference and what would be better beween the 5" dd excellerator conical coil from Kellyco against the 4x6 dd White's eliptical coil?

 

[Rob (IL)]

They are both good coils. I prefer the 5" excelerator. They are both DD coils but I don't know what you mean by conical. They both have the same blade shaped pattern. Rob

 

[arizonaames]

The 4x6 dd coil is eliptical. The 5 " dd excellerator coild is round (conical). The 4x6 would have a 1 inch search advantage over the 5'' but I think that the 5" will go a bit deeper theoretically on paper. Do you use and like the 5" dd excellerator coil?

 

[Rob (IL)]

I have a 5" coil and it is a very good coil for the trashiest situations. It is deeper than the 4x6. The 5" is round and is a DD coil. It has nothing to do with conical. Concentric coils ( not DD coils) have a conical shaped field. The 5" DD has the same blade shaped field as the 4x6. Elliptical coils tend to have depth closer to their smaller dimension. The 4x6 has depth closer to a 4" round coil than a 6" coil.

With either coil coverage is not a major consideration, getting the field to penetrate to the target without interference from the surrounding trash is the major concern. If depth is a consideration you might want to checkout the 5.3 concentric coil. It all depends on the minerals in your soil. In low mineral situations a concentric coil will be deeper than a DD of the same size. As the minerals increase that's where the DD's have an advantage.

For mineralization of 5 MXT coin-inches (moderate minerals), the 5.3 will out-reach the 4x6DD. The 4x6DD has a narrower detection pattern. The 5.3 is slightly less susceptible to EMI on the MXT than the 4x6.

Concentric loops like the 5.3 have the following advantages:
Can get good targets under bad targets because of their cone shaped field
They are 10% quieter regarding magnetic interference from power lines
They have 10% better trash discrimination on iron - steel bottle caps and foil
They can shape the target without walking around it
They pin point accurately

Wide Scan Loops (DD) like the 4x6 have the following advantages:
They have better side by side target separation
They are more sensitive to smaller than coin size targets
They are more sensitive off the tip area of the coil
They smooth out the ground reactivity noise by 10%.

Rob

 

[arizonaames]

But in mineralized soil conditions for nugget shooting, the 5.3 is not applicable. I am thinking that the 5'' dd excellerator coil will be as good or a bit better at depth than the 4x6 dd white's coil.....jim

 

[Hillbilly Bob]

If you are going to be nugget shooting then the only coil you need is the 6 X 10 DD its the best gold coil for the MXT, now the 4 X 6 DD will work in tight places like around rock and heavy brush but in gold prospecting depth is not a problem since most your gold areas have shallow bed rock. But I don't know anybody in the U.S. that uses the 5.3 prospecting you just could not cover enough ground.

 

[Monte]

What do you think would be the difference and what would be better beween the 5" dd excellerator conical coil from Kellyco against the 4x6 dd White's eliptical coil?

Your initial post didn't narrow down the uses, but I've owned and/or used most of the coils for the MXT. I got the 4X6 'shooter' with my first (of four) MXT's and while it was 'OK' I found I preferred the 5" Excelerator coil. part of the reason might be because I am partial to round coils, but the main reason is because when I used them both afield, I had better success with the 5" and actually got slightly better depth. I also was able to pluck some Indian Head cents out of some trashy parks where I didn't get as good of a response with the 'shooter' coil.

The 4x6 dd coil is eliptical. The 5 " dd excellerator coild is round (conical). The 4x6 would have a 1 inch search advantage over the 5'' but I think that the 5" will go a bit deeper theoretically on paper. Do you use and like the 5" dd excellerator coil?

I know this was your reply to someone else, but it could have been to me. Actually, "conical" refers to a cone-shape, not round.

The 4X6 DD eclipse coil might provide marginally more coverage, fore-and-aft, on the side-to-side sweep compared with the round 5" Excelerator coil due to the 6" (approximate) coil length. However, that marginal coverage advantage would only be for the first couple of inches of depth and then the responsive field area would taper off.

But the 5" Excelerator have me depth of detection similar to or better than the 4X6. It also pinpointed better.

Do I use the 5" Excelerator coil?. No, not right now, but I do use the 6" Excelerator EQ[sub]2[/sub] DD coil. It is a round configuration, has a solid bottom, and works excellent! Very impressive depth for a 6" coil. If I were hunting the nastiest of trash conditions, I'd opt for the 5" Excelerator. For general hunting in common-to-moderate trash, or for nugget hunting, the 6" provides a little better depth and performance than the 5" or 4X6.

But in mineralized soil conditions for nugget shooting, the 5.3 is not applicable. I am thinking that the 5'' dd excellerator coil will be as good or a bit better at depth than the 4x6 dd white's coil.

Having hunted with the 5.3 Eclipse (concentric ) coil, I can tell you that it does okay in mineralized ground, and for gold nugget hunting as well. I've used it for nugget detection on a number of occasions and didn't have a problem.

Would I prefer the concentric design 5.3 Eclipse (6

 

[Hillbilly Bob]

Having hunted with the 5.3 Eclipse (concentric ) coil, I can tell you that it does okay in mineralized ground, and for gold nugget hunting as well. I've used it for nugget detection on a number of occasions and didn't have a problem.
Hey Monte, why don't you post some pictures of the gold you found with the 5.3 Eclipse we like seeing gold finds..........