4rd Trip out with CZ-70 Pro Gets the Goods :thumbup:

[Cal_Cobra]

I picked up this CZ-70 from a Findmall forum member (Thanks Gary ), and my first trip out with it I found a washington silver quarter and several wheats. Second and third trips out, more wheats, but the silver was stingy. Then the CZ-70 had to go back to Fisher for a check-up as the display was blanking out, but now it's back and working better then ever (this unit does awesome in air tests!).

I went to a park early this morning before the heat set it (it was 103F here yesterday). My first target was a 1902 Indian Head, I thought this is either going to be a good hunt or I might as well pack it in. As it turns out, it was a very good hunt

My second, and favorite target was a beautiful gold plated Art Nouveau heart pendant (you can see where the chain loop broke off at the top of the heart), then I started pulling early wheats out (1911S semi-key date, 1915 (second 1915 this week), 1916S, 1917S & 1920S). After several wheats, I got a nice high coin signal about 7" deep, and out pops my first Standing Liberty Quarter SF mint mark, no date, but she looks great to me.

Then I moved to another area and the next target was a 1951S silver rosie, and then later date wheats started showing up (1930 and 1956D).

I also found a clay marble when I was digging another target and this little silver plated hair pin ball ?? (has a steel dot on the end where it was once attached to something).

I'm up North this week, and this little park isn't too far from where I'm staying, so I plan to hit it every morning this week The park goes back to the 1800's hopefully I can coax some pre-1900 silver out of it

hh,
Brian

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

wow good job

 

[Cal_Cobra]

Thanks Lawrenzo, hopefully there's more to be had

 

[Cal_Cobra]

 

[joe dirt_1]

some nice finds there cal cobra! just curious, but did the indian head penny read zinc cent on your cz70? i haven't found an indian head penny with my cz 70 yet but i have found several buffalo nickels and a v nickel with it.... it seems to love nickels. good luck and happy hunting with the cz70.............roger

 

[Cal_Cobra]

some nice finds there cal cobra! just curious, but did the indian head penny read zinc cent on your cz70? i haven't found an indian head penny with my cz 70 yet but i have found several buffalo nickels and a v nickel with it.... it seems to love nickels. good luck and happy hunting with the cz70.............roger

Hi Roger,

The indian head penny was a solid hit on the 1c/zn icon. Looks like the CZ70 groups both copper and zinc cents into the same segment, although I hate digging zincolns, perhaps this is a good thing as it'll increase odds of getting a later IH penny.

I need to rerun a nickel test on my CZ as it was solid on nickels before I sent it to FIsher to repair, but today all the nickel hits were square pull tabs. Is this normal??

For the most part there's so little trash at this park, I think I'm going to dig all non-ferrous targets in hopes of picking up a sleeper.

hh,
Brian

 

[joe dirt_1]

hi brian, i hate digging zinc pennies too and at newer sites i id them and check the depth and pass most up. so nickels are hitting in the relic icon now on your machine? maybe the amount of corrosion on the nickels caused that. i noticed that when air testing some of the buffalo nickels i dug that some were hitting in the relic icon area, but read solid in the nickel range when i found them. my guess is several things can cause nickels to read lower.... corrosion and ground moisture content are probably the main reasons. the ground is pretty dry here in illinois right now even though we have had some rain recently, but nickels are still locking on under the correct icon on my cz 70. from the looks of your finds you have a good area to hunt. i love finding the standing liberty quarters but they seem hard to find. barber quarters are more common finds for me. hope the nice finds continue at that old park for you.............roger

 

[Cal_Cobra]

Hi Roger,

At the suggestion of NasaTom when I first got my CZ70 I air-tested a large variety of nickels (over 50) using the 5" and 10.5" coils and they all ID'd properly on the 5C icon. Yesterday I didn't find any nickels, the only targets that came in on the 5C segment turned out to be square pull tabs (maybe that's normal on the CZ70?). When I get back home I'll retest the machine with my bag of nickels, hopefully Fisher didn't recalibrate it while it was in getting the display repaired.

I would be ecstatic to find Barber quarters

hh,
Brian

 

[christopher-ohio]

from what I have seen and heard from fellow detectorists, Fisher can rarely get it right these days with CZ calibration. I have been PM'd about a guy who sent in his perfect functioning CZ-70 trying to make it "hotter" only to get back a scratched up control box with the ID all screwed up and no better testing...the same with CZ-3D's,,,boy do I miss the old Fisher guys...that's why a lifetime warranty machine is now worthless since I'm about convinced that they can't fix it. That's why I have several CZ-70's that are hot and work right since if something goes wrong it will probably never be the same. I can just use the rod set-up for another coil size. I have used Fishers since the CZ-70 came out and later the CZ-3D's so I have seen the transition. I know I should just be glad Fisher didn't go the way of Compass, Troy and the like but come on, how hard can it be to have someone, a tech, that is properly trained on analog and digital CZ tuning?...jmho


Congrats on the nice finds...I'm not surprised at all since it's still my favorite machine overall...HH

 

[Cal_Cobra]

Hey christopher-ohio,

I don't know if FT did any calibration, but I do know they replaced the ground balance POT. I wouldn't think that in itself would require a recalibration (I didn't ask for one), but it seems to be running very well aside from the nickel anomaly. Do square tabs hit as nickels on your CZ-70's ??

 

[prodrigsr]

Sent my CZ6 in to upgrade to a CZ6a and ever since the nickel id has not been the same. Nickel id is most always pulltab or foil. Before most of solid nickel ids were just that nickels. I sent it to brokendetectors for the upgrade and it took 8 weeks to get it back. Hate to send it back.

 

[joe dirt_1]

brian, square tabs should be hitting under the relic icon on you cz70. possibly a bent or damaged tab could read differently, but the relic icon replaced the square tab icon on the cz70. composition of the tab could affect the reading too i guess. lack of ground moisture could be part of the reason nickels are reading lower on the display. seems like most of the machines i own work better when the ground has plenty of moisture....only one i noticed it doesn't seem to affect is the fisher 1266...dry ground is no problem for it. one thing i can say with certainty is none of my fisher machines will go back to the factory for repairs if needed. they will go to keith at east texas metal detectors for repair. chris is right when he said how hard could it be to have one person trained to tune the cz's properly. my feelings are they could care less about the older machines and want to sell the high dollar new machines they manufacture now.............roger

 

[joe dirt_1]

hi chris, i agree with you about fisher messing up more than they fix....read too many stories of guys sending in machines to be repaired and getting back something that worked worse than before they sent it in. when i heard that first texas bought fisher back in '06 i said i would never buy another new fisher detector again and i haven't. the new machines just don't have the quality build of the old fisher machines. i have owned fishers since around 1982 and have bought a new 1220, 2 new 1260's, a new cz5, a new 1265, and a new 1266 which i still own. those machines were built like a tank and had great customer service if you needed it. how many of the new fisher machines do you think will be around in 10 or 15 years still working as good as the day they were new? probably not very many in my opinion. ........roger

 

[christopher-ohio]

n/t

 

[silverfix]

Good finds Brian. I have a cz7 and a buddy of mine has a cz70pro. We both have minelabs but still like our cz's at many sites. The cz's depth is great.