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40 hours in so far - Monday & Tuesday's lessons in Racer school:detecting:

Ytcoinshooter

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Another four hours of Racer school each day Monday and yesterday, the lesson was audio. When I first got the Racer I tried a few different detecting headsets that I have. Just before I left to detect Monday the postman delivered my new Grey Ghost NDT's. Absolutely the best clarity for my hearing. All the signal subtleties are much clearer. I was using an older pair of Sierra Maxi Phone 2 before the GG's arrived and they were decent and I think they were 150 ohm rated but they are not in the same class as my GG NDT's. Aside, I have two pair of GGA's I use on two or other get wet detectors (Excalibur 2 & ATP) and they don't sound as nice as these land GG's because the amphibians give up something in order to be submersible. The Racer's audio is the key to cherry picking success and in general distinguishing targets with similar VDI's. The GG NDT's have to be heard.
I'm a coin shooter, who relic hunts, water hunts and so on but what I'm trying to say is from my perspective unless I'm specifically setting out for a dedicated water hunt, cellar hole adventure or when I don't have any "new permissions" for property my goal is to score at least one silver coin. I call it bottom feeding because I am picking up the scraps, missed good targets by countless other detectorists. I'm doing that now with the Racer in places that I've lost interest in hitting with any of my other detectors except 1 other. I'm definitely impressed and pleased at the results. It's a great compliment to my choice of detectors for turf. Each have their strengths and are of different flavors of detecting tech. Hitting productive sites with 3 or 4 very different units is my favored way of trying no to leave anything behind. On Monday as I was near finishing I flip the bottom of a 6" plug and I see what I'm looking for. Racer silver #5 and I managed a wheat cent as well. From the same site the other 4 Racer silvers came from.

The previous trips the last 2 weeks I had always packed another detector as that's my habit, only once in that time did I spend ANY time swinging something besides the Racer. Well of course my objective has been to get comfortable using it but I never know if I'll find a situation that will have me wanting one of my regulars. So yesterday morning I packed only my Racer (I'm getting cocky - LOL!).
I spent a couple of hours doing the same thing. Trying pull a rabbit out...er I should say a sliver from a different beat to heck spot. This is just an overlooked section of an old park that is not the typical fringe area where I make most of my odd silver finds on public grounds. It's a ball field and sledding hill. I know my areas well and only the last couple of years did a few locals realize there was more to mine, typically at 6" or more using today's better detectors especially when the ground was moisture saturated. Iffy coin hits with good audio and jumpy VDI's were usually a coin. Once it got around I ran across a few guys more than once I didn't know when I'd show up to hit it. That has now tapered off as have the silver & wheats. I pulled some nice jewelry the last two years there too. I managed a wheat cent then this nickel, a 1962 D
with an "8" stamped into it front and back. Reminds me of something we'd plant at a club competition hunt for a prize. I got a hit at 6"that showed 84-85 and the audio was almost clean but at that probable depth I'm going in even if there is a bit of scratchy attached to the rise and fall of the signal. Three nickels fused together at 6"...neat. The first one came off easy revealing an Indian head nickel sandwich! The top Jefferson looks like it could be a '39. the 2 remaining nickels are still fused and didn't budge when I dropped them in the sink while rinsing and after moderate prying didn't budge 'em. Here's the bottom one. Maybe a Jefferson? eventually I'll work those two apart and if the last one is an Indian I will report back. I scored more coins and a couple of wheat cents but the main objective in targets in this place are deep coins. I'm thinking of soaking those nickels in CLR to see if the green copper oxide that seems to be fusing them will lessen. Can't hurt them anyway.
My time so far learning this detector has proved it was a smart purchase. It gave me renewed interest in places that (to me) are tired out sites.
HH-Bruce
 
Some great info with your post. I've had the very same/similar experiences as you are having. This bottom feeding you refer to--- sounds like what I do.

The Racer is definitely sneaky. I can't quite put my finger on it. The only thing I can maybe guess is: The detector seems to be doing something special,,,is it not being blinded by rust flakes or small bits of foil????

I know the audio when you hit something definitely makes one stop---far better than any of my other detectors--I have quite a few flagships far more expensive.

I have commented on this on another forum----but the folks over there didn't seem there was anything special going on.

I look at the Racer like this.

Any old house site---game on, no matter what other detector has been run there.

So yes I will continue to bottom feed with my Racer in the old sites.
 
I forgot to mention that I've been leaving the ID filter at 10, gain I may turn down in 3 tone to 60, 2 tone gain I raise to 80 or 85 to try and bring up an ID on faint 3 tone "high tone" coin hits. The ground balance was at 84. It's a different detector that as far as I'm concerned I hope gets ignored by the local hunters. I need every advantage in order to bring home missed coins, esp silver. In older sites I'll be looking for that elusive and easily lost gold dollar or bigger. Eventually I'll get to some sports fields to look for that favorite low conductor we all covet. That will be an awful lot of digging!
HH - Bruce
 
Ytcoinshooter said:
I forgot to mention that I've been leaving the ID filter at 10, gain I may turn down in 3 tone to 60, 2 tone gain I raise to 80 or 85 to try and bring up an ID on faint 3 tone "high tone" coin hits. The ground balance was at 84. It's a different detector that as far as I'm concerned I hope gets ignored by the local hunters. I need every advantage in order to bring home missed coins, esp silver. In older sites I'll be looking for that elusive and easily lost gold dollar or bigger. Eventually I'll get to some sports fields to look for that favorite low conductor we all covet. That will be an awful lot of digging!
HH - Bruce

I love digging deep pull tabs believe it or not. This tells me that the Racer is doing it's job. As for others ignoring the Racer, I'm totally with you on that, there is a park here that even people with Deus, e-trac, and CTX won't touch but I feel very comfortable there with my Racer. I even found a few Indians and some silver with the stock coil even. Have the other 2 smaller coils arriving on Monday and hope I have time to take them to that park before freeze up.
 
Davethejunky said:
Ytcoinshooter said:
I forgot to mention that I've been leaving the ID filter at 10, gain I may turn down in 3 tone to 60, 2 tone gain I raise to 80 or 85 to try and bring up an ID on faint 3 tone "high tone" coin hits. The ground balance was at 84. It's a different detector that as far as I'm concerned I hope gets ignored by the local hunters. I need every advantage in order to bring home missed coins, esp silver. In older sites I'll be looking for that elusive and easily lost gold dollar or bigger. Eventually I'll get to some sports fields to look for that favorite low conductor we all covet. That will be an awful lot of digging!
HH - Bruce

I love digging deep pull tabs believe it or not. This tells me that the Racer is doing it's job. As for others ignoring the Racer, I'm totally with you on that, there is a park here that even people with Deus, e-trac, and CTX won't touch but I feel very comfortable there with my Racer. I even found a few Indians and some silver with the stock coil even. Have the other 2 smaller coils arriving on Monday and hope I have time to take them to that park before freeze up.
Dave, thanks for your reply. I'd have figured the Deus users would be the most likely to dive into junk infested areas. It has the rapid recovery / retune necessary but I have not used one yet so maybe I'm missing something. It certainly was the way I was leaning until the Racer caught my attention. I have the 4.5 x 5" oor, are the coils you are getting Mars or Racer? Let me know your impression of the coils you receive.
HH!
 
I'm getting the Racer coils, and hope Mars are available her by spring. It's funny that the guys that run these high dollar machines will diss the Racer saying that you have to spend xdollars to find xcoins.... That doesn't make sense to me. But they also say they wont waste their time in this park but see me pull stuff out. Tells me they don't have the confidence in the high ticket detectors.
 
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