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Since I've been soooo good this year , I may get myself a smaller coil for the new DeLeon for Christmas. Other than physical size, is there any difference between the two? Or does anyone have a preference between the two? Seems like I hear (read) more talk of the 5.75" over the 4".
BusDigger, Although I'm sure the 4" coil has its purpose, it would be very intimidating looking down at that tiny coil. I do have experience with the little 3 3/4" Fisher coil and it is tiny. They call it a hockey puck for good reason...lol. Buy the 5.75" coil for the DeLeon, you will love that coil for hunting trashy areas and at least it looks like you actually have a coil on your lower rod.
lol, I kinda thought the same thing Roger (about that tiny 4" coil) after posting, but just wanted to hear it from others. It seems the last 2-3 old home sites (which are now crop fields) have had more iron in them than any I'd noticed before, so I thought the smaller coil would help separate things some. Thanks!
if you got alot of iron probs you'l have to work slow and try to grab the good signals and work from there and watch your meter to verify good signal solid lock dig if it coin size target
While we're talking coils, anyone have any experience with the 10"X12" Spider? I'm considering getting both it, and the 5.75", and yes....I've been THAT good
Thanks Joe! After posting my last post, I went back and read some older posts (which I should have done to begin with), and had read where some detectors even had to be sent back in for recalibration.
I don't hunt anywhere which requires me to have a time-frame, or a need for speed (seeded hunts for instance), so covering the additional area isn't worth the possible issues, not to mention the possible loss of sensitivity to smaller objects.
I'll just stick to the stock coil, and add the 5.75" as I initially planned.
Smitty, I've tried the 10X12 on my DeLeon and got a bit of chatter from mineralization so I only use it on my Eldorado with manual ground balance. The 5.75 is a great little coil, but you will need to slow down your swing a bit or you'll continually find you've swung well past the target. I haven't used the 4" on the DeLeon, but I have used it on several other machines. It's great for heavy trash and or tight places, but takes some getting used to and the slower swing mentioned is a must. I also use the 7" concentric with good results and have recently been trying the DeLeon with the 8" brown donut coil which gives pretty much the same depth as the 8X9, but swings a bit smoother in higher grass, weeds etc. While the depth is the best with the 8X9 or the 8" in my experience, the 5.75 and the 7" deliver very well for their size. Hope this is useful.
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Thanks for the info BB! I thought the smaller (5.75") coil would help me in those high-iron sites (open fields, just tons of iron targets). I don't hunt many tot-lots, parks, newer schools unless I need a "fix"
I also thought it would be helpful in some wooded/overgrown areas we hunt. I guess I should get on the ball and order one so I might be able to get some use out of it before the snow flies.
then again i've never used a 4" Tesoro coil... but I can tell you this, a 4" coil is really small. I don't think you'll lose or gain anything by going with the 5.75 as far as performance, in fact I imagine the performance of the 5.75 will be better than the 4". The only reason I can think of to buy a 4" coil would be if you needed to get into some really tight places but 1.75" is not much difference.
If you hunt in mineralized ground you might consider the 7" widescan (DD) coil. It may improve performance as much as the CC 5.75 coil... but if wanted to sell it you probably couldn't sell it as easily as the 5.75... those are always in demand.
I had a Cortes with the stock CC coil and a 5.75. I hardly ever used the stock coil. The umax detectors feel so much better with a 5.75 coil and they lose very little depth. You have to be careful to overlap a little more though... you will probably be able to run the sens a little higher to help compensate for the smaller coil... helps to match the depth. Smaller coils usually pick up less EMI, IMO...
It isn't going to make a huge difference with the iron. All the Tesoros i've used ignore small iron pretty well if you disc it out but they love bigger iron... and really, that is a good thing because some of the bigger iron targets are cool handwrought items and the small stuff is mostly nails... you're still going to get bolts and other round iron though. The biggest thing about the 5.75 coil, to me, is not so much that it works better than the 8" coil but that it works as well and is lighter. You'll get some better performance in trash and iron though.
All the tesoro users I know are relic hunters and all use the Tejon except for one guy who used the Cibola but all of them got a 5.75 and never used anything else.
J, I'm mostly a coin-shooter so hitting "between" the iron targets would be the reasoning behind the smaller coil. 90% of iron on the sites we hunt is square nails, scrap, implement parts, and tons of other stuff that isn't worth digging for me.
I have both and the 4" coil is great for small areas or heavy trash and thus I permanently use it on my Royal Sabre since it has the tone ID and notch features for the trashy areas. I keep the 5.75" coil on my Silver umax-it's only a little less on depth than the brown coil. Wouldn't sell either one.
, I may get myself a smaller coil for the new DeLeon for Christmas. Other than physical size, is there any difference between the two? Or does anyone have a preference between the two? Seems like I hear (read) more talk of the 5.75" over the 4".
