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4.5X7 Excelerator vs. 5.3 Eclipse for relic hunting

Canewrap

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I hunt in moderately mineralized dirt most of the time (90%), but occasionally in some pretty bad dirt. I have a 6X10DD that I'm really starting to favor over the stock coil. Would I better off
with a 4.5X7 DD or a 5.3 Eclipse? I really need a small coil for my MXT as I'm finding out that a lot of the sites I'm hunting (old homesites) are real junky and target seperation is a royal pain (relic hunting 90% of time as well). For anybody familiar with both coils, which would have the best depth, as well as target seperation?
 
Well, in my opinion, you can't have it both ways. I have been using the White's 4X6 shooter, the 5.3 Eclipse and the 6X10DD. As far as I'm concerned the 4X6 is the best coil I have ever used on any machine as far as separation is concerned, Wonderful for coin shooting in trashy parks and the like. BUT, you most probably won't get near the depth you would desire for relic hunting. The 5.3 is a pretty good all around coil and separates better than the stock 9.5 and will give you better depth than the 4X6, but not the separation. Surprisingly, to me anyway, when I started using the 6X10 DD I have been able to hunt moderately well in 2 trashy parks that were next to impossible to hunt with the standard 9.5. If you are more concerned about the separation go for the 4X6, if not, the 5.3 will do you a fair job, but again, may not give as much depth as you desire for relic hunting. A good, general rule of thumb is, you can figure the bigger the coil, the deeper, with somewhat less sensitivity to small targets. The smaller the coil, less depth, but increased separation and increased sensitivity to small targets at moderate depths. Hope this helps a bit. If you can afford to have both, you will be set to adjust to the particular site you are hunting at the time.
My two bits,
Bill
 
The 6x10 DD coil works pretty good in trashy areas and I have used it a lot at parks,schools and old home sites, but a small coil such as the 4.5x7 DD or 6" DD Excelerators will get better target separation in trashy areas. I evaluated both of these coils for JW and found that both have good depth, up to around 8" or so which is pretty good for small coils. They both pinpointed great and the VDI numbers were accurate. My wife uses the 4.5x7 and she likes it and I am using the 6".. Either coil would be a good choice if you are wanting a small coil. HH Dennis in Idaho
 
keep us informed on how it works for you.
HH
Bill
 
Before you get the 6" DD Excelerator, remember, the 4.5x7 is an eliptical design, you can get closer to objects like foundations and brick fences. With the 6" round DD you are still basically using the midde of the coil and are losing 3/4 of an inch on each side when it comes to getting close to a tree or a foundation.

The concentric 5.3 (actually a 6 inch coil) works great, but as you know, I use and favor the 4.5x7.
 
Here's a thought. Around an old homesite, which is where I have the most trash problems, I'm thinking of starting with a 4 X 6 to cherry pick targets out of the junk, down to 4" or so. Then, when I'm done with that I switch to the 6 X 10 and ignore anything shallower than 5" (unless its an obviously good target I missed the first time through). I know this would be less than perfect, but it'll probably be better than what I've been getting using the stock coil.
 
I learned a lesson a long time ago when detecting old sites. I had been ignoring targets that I thought were just junk only to be followed up by my hunting partner who dug what I thought was trash and he walked away with a nice relic. From that time on when I am hunting an old site I dig it all and ignore nothing. You never really know unless you dig it. Just a thought. HH Dennis in Idaho
 
Normally, with an old homesite in the woods (that wasn't occupied much beyond the early 1900's) or a Civil War site I'd agree with you, but I have a couple of sites that were only torn down within the last ten years and 150 years of trash is formidable. On a couple of others I'm just after any silver coins because the houses were built in the 1940's and then torn down in the 90's. If I had 180 hours to hunt some of these sites, then I'd dig everything, but I don't have any where near that luxury I'm afraid. As usual, its really on a case by case basis. You'd be surprised at the lack of coins or anything valuable around some of these Alabama homesteads. I have a large box full of iron "junk" I've collected in the last year, by digging nearly everything.
 
I hear you on the iron junk box. I used to bring home a lot, but most of it ends up as WHY? did I keep that so unless it is something of real interest I don't, anymore. I always like to dig and see what caused the beep tho.
HH
Bill
 
You might want to send him a PM or email I know he had 2 6x10's for sale and a 4.5x7 EXcelerator. He wanted...... $135 for the EXcelerator. You will find his information on the DFX Classroom page of this website.
 
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