Menu
What's new
Find's Treasure Forums

Welcome to Find's Treasure Forums, Guests!

You are viewing this forums as a guest which limits you to read only status.

Only registered members may post stories, questions, classifieds, reply to other posts, contact other members using built in messaging and use many other features found on these forums.

Why not register and join us today? It's free! (We don't share your email addresses with anyone.) We keep email addresses of our users to protect them and others from bad people posting things they shouldn't.

Click here to register!

Need Support Help?

Cannot log in?, click here to have new password emailed to you

Changed email? Forgot to update your account with new email address? Need assistance with something else?, click here to go to Find's Support Form and fill out the form.

4.5 X 7 EXcelerator or the 6x10DD

R

robert roy

New member
Just curious....I saw the 4.5 X 7 EXcelerator advertised at
Kelly Co. What is this one going to do that my 6x10DD won't?
The 4.5 X 7 EXcelerator seems spendy to me: $195. It must have
an edge over the 6x10.
RR
 
[quote robert roy]Just curious....I saw the 4.5 X 7 EXcelerator advertised at
Kelly Co. What is this one going to do that my 6x10DD won't?
The 4.5 X 7 EXcelerator seems spendy to me: $195. It must have
an edge over the 6x10.
RR[/quote]

about the only 'minmal' advantage i could think of would be 'slightly' better performance in trash..obviously being smaller..other than that,im sure someone else has some ideas:)
 
Just wondering because one post here indicated 9 and 12 inches with
the 4x7 excellerator. I've never gotten anything registering that deep with my 6x10DD.
I need more info before even considering ANYthing as expensive as that coil.
RR:lol:
 
I've got the 8" excelerator and it is a good coil. It is actually a little deeper (hotter) than the 4x7, you can ask JW. The 4x7 has better separation. Now for depth. I won't challenge depth claims that guys make but, some guys go by the depth reading and don't actually measure. The 9.5 coil is the only one that reads accurately with your machine. My 6x10 is off about 2", my 8" is off by an inch and I don't remember the 5". They all say the target is deeper than it is. I've never got the depths the ads claim. My soil is a about a 5 or 6 on Jeff's scale which is pretty good. Jeff's tests show my 9.5 is deeper than the 6x10 in my soil. Rob
 
I've had both coils before and presently have only the 6 x10. I sometimes marvel at the depths claimed by some fellows. But, far be it from me to say they aren't true. I think alot depends on soil type in your part of the country. Having detected only in the western states I can honestly say that the deepest coin I have ever found with the 6 x 10 was about 7". I have found pieces of metal at 10" with my 8" EX coil but never any coins.
 
Thanks. My air test on the 6x10DD get me about 7+inches with the sensitivity maxed out.
Now if the 4x7 is going to get me more, well maybe or maybe not its worth the price.
RR
 
Yup. Thats about where I'm at with my 6x10DD
I've noticed Kelly Co sells an assortment of excellerators coils that are not Whites but
they claim can be used with the MXT and some other machines. Has anyone ever
tried them?

RR
 
[quote robert roy]Yup. Thats about where I'm at with my 6x10DD
I've noticed Kelly Co sells an assortment of excellerators coils that are not Whites but
they claim can be used with the MXT and some other machines. Has anyone ever
tried them?

RR[/quote]

They work just fine. My first extra coil was the 8" EX. I can't begin to tell you how many things I found with it. The pinpointing was pretty much right on, just a little forward of dead center. I seem to remember that it was just a bit on the heavy side. I haven't used it in over 2 years. I'm hooked on the 6 x 10.
 
[attachment 86557 5-inch-EXcel-std-compare.gif]The 6 X 10 is a good coil it's the one I use also, but in trashy areas the 4 X 6 will give you better separation with targets. The 4.5 X 7 does one better it's about the same size as the 4 X 6 it gives as much separation in trashy areas and gets about 10 to 20% more depth. but your right it doesn't give an accurate reading on depth as the whites coils do. when I said 12" to 9" thats just what I thought the holes were I dug to retrieve them, I did not have a ruler with me but my digging tool is 11" long, I compared the hole to it. the quarter was deep.:detecting:
 
I wonder if you might try an air test and see what you get. Now I know thats different than real ground targeting but lets see what that little baby does in the air. I stand my detector on end, place a plastic ruler at the top of the coil and pas the coin or whatever at eye level across the coil. Try this a different sensitivity settings and see what it gets. I thing most of us would like to know.:detecting:

Regards
Robert R
 
I did the air test, I used my 6 X 10 first did a ground balance set the track on lock, put the gain on preset, dual control on 4 and the threshold turn up to a slight hum. stood the detector on end and held the ruler to it. I was getting faint hits w/ silver quarter at 6", a silver dime at 5", a nickle at 5.5" and a small gold ring at 3" w/out headphones. w/headphones I could hear faint signals quarter at 7.5", dime at 6", nickle at 6" the gold ring at 3.5". I changed to the 4.5 X 7 did the ground test the same way, left the settings in the same place. w/out headphones I got faint hits w/quarter at 9", w/dime 8'', nickle 7" gold ring 4", w/headphones real faint hits w/quarter 10.5" dime 8.5", nickle was about the same just a little over 7", gold ring at 5". Now I played w/settings and these are the best readings I get. the quarter I dug in the park was deeper then 11" I was proud of my find, and the depth. And the price of the 4.5 X 7 isn't $195. you can deal w/kellyco call them and talk them down on the price I only paid $145. for mine and they throw in a coil cover. :please::whites:
 
I am not a big fan of air testing, but I do appreciate someone who takes the time to answer someones question as you did. Good job. HH Dennis in Idaho[quote tinpanprospector]I did the air test, I used my 6 X 10 first did a ground balance set the track on lock, put the gain on preset, dual control on 4 and the threshold turn up to a slight hum. stood the detector on end and held the ruler to it. I was getting faint hits w/ silver quarter at 6", a silver dime at 5", a nickle at 5.5" and a small gold ring at 3" w/out headphones. w/headphones I could hear faint signals quarter at 7.5", dime at 6", nickle at 6" the gold ring at 3.5". I changed to the 4.5 X 7 did the ground test the same way, left the settings in the same place. w/out headphones I got faint hits w/quarter at 9", w/dime 8'', nickle 7" gold ring 4", w/headphones real faint hits w/quarter 10.5" dime 8.5", nickle was about the same just a little over 7", gold ring at 5". Now I played w/settings and these are the best readings I get. the quarter I dug in the park was deeper then 11" I was proud of my find, and the depth. And the price of the 4.5 X 7 isn't $195. you can deal w/kellyco call them and talk them down on the price I only paid $145. for mine and they throw in a coil cover. :please::whites:[/quote]
 
Thank you Dennis, I don't hold much light on the air test ether. but these are real faint signals, not horns or buzzers. I got use to hunting faint signals using my GMT, found a lot of gold with it.:wiggle:
 
Thank you.
Thats good information and presented very well.
While air testing may not represent actual ground
conditions, it DOES in my opinion, say something about
the coil being used in relation to the settings. Everything else
is up to the person useing the metal detector in real world
ground conditions.

If the 6x10, measured under the same conditions as the
4x9 excellerator gets less depth, that speaks well for the
excellerator coil. If my logic follows correctly, the excelerator
would preform better in real world conditions, assuming the
end user has a good understanding of his/her machine, in my opinion.


Thanks
Robert R
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top