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4.5" x 7" Excelerator Coil. The little football coil ROCKS:clapping:

Hotcz70

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This is one coil I've wanted to put through the paces for years now.
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It was actually the first aftermarket coil I ever purchased a few years ago...but at that time I was going back and forth between ferrous/AM and conductive/iron mask....which completely screwed me up.

I seriously don't recommend anyone new to the explorers doing that..because you need to train your ears and mind for one OR the other...LEARN it...LEARN IT AGAIN...then STAY with one or the other.

I sold the coil...nearly sold the SE...and became so frustrated...I stopped hunting for a while.

There's just no way you can properly learn the machine by switching back and forth because it completely changes the sounds you need to learn in order to train your ears to interperate said sounds.

I made the decision to learn conductive/iron mask and never looked back.

After you have a ton of hours on the machine and want to learn the other setup...It's a proven method as well. They BOTH are. I'm just stating you need to stick to one setup while learning the machine.

If you choose to learn Ferrous/AM first...then the same holds true for it as well. Learn it before trying the other setup.

You need to learn the strange language the Explorer speaks before you can expect to hold a meaningful conversation with it.

Anyway I decided to take this sleek lookin' little critter to one of the sites I have hit before with my other small coils just to see if I could pop another coin or 2 hidden in the dense trash.
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The ground was freshly mowed so if I was going to find any deep, masked coins...now was the time to try to do so.:)

The mid sized X-8 did okay here as did my 6 x 8 SEF...but this trash is so incredibly dense...the X-5 and 6" Excelerator did even better.

I wanted to try the 4.5 x 7 Excelerator here to try squeaking another keeper or 2 out...and also compare it against my Joey coil since it was the one coil I hadn't used here yet.

I would liked to have flagged a couple of targets with the Joey in order to compare the 4.5 x 7 against it.

Fact of the matter is though that I was unable to locate any targets I felt could be coins or jewelry.

I then went back over the exact same area and gridded it the exact same way with the 4.5 x 7 Excelerator.

After 2 1/2 hours I ended up locating 2 additional targets...and both were coins.

The first coin was a wheatie underneath a partial pulltab at 7".

The second signal was one I felt had a shot at being silver...and it was deep. It wasn't a super good signal but I was thrilled to get it at all since I had been here before with other small coils....and it WAS definitely a coin signal to me.

I carefully dug the plug and began to scrape away dirt with my fingers until I saw a big chunk of reddish metal at well OVER 8" deep.

About the same time I caught the glimpse of silver underneath it...and about 1/3 of the coin was covered by the metal chunk.
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Took a couple of pics...then plucked the shiny disc out of the nearly 9" hole...and was rewarded with a Barber dime.

If you look closely at the first pic...you can see the speck of silver in the center of the hole.

The 2nd pic was the exact same shot...but with my camera on zoom.

I realize that many of you fellers' probably wouldn't be happy with sifting through the trash for nearly 3 hours in 94+ degree heat for 2 coins...but if you knew how hard and with how many coils I have hit this place with...you'd feel differently.:thumbup:

I then decided to go to a spot where almost all of my jewelry has come from.

I never dig lower conductors unless I am 100% bored because of lack of signals otherwise...OR I have found trinket jewelry there before. I simply do not have the time and patience to dig nickle type hits...but anything near pulltab and on up I'll try for.

Well after 4 hours I had 11 pulltabs...2 small fuses...1 piece of wire...and one lone nickel in the pouch.:rolleyes:

The Sunray X-5...and 6" Excelerator both served me well here.

This place was just a solid carpet of crap when I started testing coils here many months ago...but I bet I have dug 200 targets here since then.

It is nothing to dig a hole and find 2 to 3 pieces of crap in there.:stars:

99% of the nickle sounding hits were now gone as was evident with with my one lone nickel find.

Well right before dusk I finally got another decent sounding low conductor...but it wasn't quite as low as a nickel...yet not as high as a pulltab.

It was however a nice... for lack of better words... "robust" sounding signal. Very solid and repeating as well from about 7" or so deep.

What was strange though was that I was getting a second signal 2" away from the hit I wanted to dig...but it was more of a "wire" tyoe of sound.:wacko:

I dug a big plug and found the "wire" type hit which turned out to be a washer type object.

I then ran the probe and still got the initial robust signal.

I just plopped out a chunk of dirt and saw a color which is usually foreign to me because it was GOLD.:surprised:

After I stopped slobbering:bouncy:...I rubbed away some of the caked dirt around the inside to get a better look.

It felt heavy and solid and I wanted to get an actual "fresh dug" pic...so I went to the car and got my camera.
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I can probably count the gold rings I've found in my 35 year detecting career on one hand...so this was quite a thrill for me.:clapping:

After geting it home and rinsing it off...it indeed turned out to be genuine. Stamped 10K and is Black Hills gold.:clapping:

I went out again today with the temp at 98 degrees and hit 2 different sidelines/bleachers areas until about 8:30 this evening.

I feel very fortunate for 2 reasons...1) because I didn't pass out from dehydration:puke:...and 2) because I was able to come up with 3 more silver and a few wheats.:)

Nothing too old today but all the coins were found in a mixture of crap such as foil wads..wire pieces and other numerous junk bits one would expect to find along the sidelines of old abandoned football fields.
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As you can see the one roosey still has the iron stains on it from sitting directly under a rusty bolt.

Would have liked to have taken a pic of it in the hole like that...but again...I feel lucky not to be in the hospital having fluids put in me from the heat today.

Normally I would be a little more detailed with how things were found...but I'm honestly half sick.:blink:

I think this little 4.5 x 7 Excelerator coil will be a nice addition to my arsenal because it can be run smokin' hot. I am thankful I gave it a second chance after better learning my SE and what it was telling me...because this hot little football coil speaks very clear.

1) Exceptional depth for such a tiny coil

2) Exceptional separation

3) Exceptional stability

4) I could go on...but it would get redundant because everything about this coil was outstanding EXCEPT for ground coverage:beers:
 
AWESOME FIELD TEST BRYCE, GLAD TO SEE YOUR STILL ALIVE IN THIS HEAT :stars:
 
Thanks for the info, Bryce. After encountering a couple recent 'signal dense' sites, I've started wondering if something smaller than the 8x6 SEF would provide an extra edge. The X-5 came to mind, as did this one. But I was thinking the 4.5x7 might be close enough to the 8x6 that the smaller X-5 would make a better difference.

I do think that giving Ferrous a shot at those low conductors - in the right location - is well worth tolerating the pull tab ratios. To my ears, the pull tabs lack that 'robust' signal that a truly good target has, which to me is a smoother, bell-like tone, and will have that warble with any depth. Tabs just don't sound that good to me (and if shallow, don't warble either). Sure needs more concentration though.
 
Youre nutso for getting out yesterday when it was in the high 90's but Im glad you did from the looks of all the finds..
Nice report you posted and I see Hercules helped like always.
 
Nice post and congrats on the keepers and gold ring!:thumbup:
 
Be careful in those high temps, high humidity days, Bryce!! You need lots of fluids to even be hunting in conditions like that. When you're feeling a little sick, you body is telling you something.....I know, I know......the addiction of the hobby, along with the mental freedom and peacefulness we all crave keeps us out there a lot longer than our bodies may want to be. A couple of years back, my friend had purchased a special sleeveless jacket that has the ability to keep the core of your body cool. The jacket is filled with cooling packs. Seem to work for him on really hot days. He didn't feel all run down after his hunt.

I appreciate your review of the 4.5x7. I remember putting on a 5" coil once on my machine......I just couldn't get over how small it was.

Congrats on all your oldies, my friend. Love the ring too!! It's really tough to find any gold in those trashy, aluminum filled parks!

Take care!
CAPTN SE
Dan
 
n/t
 
Great write up Bryce. I know what you mean with the heat. I went out for three hours friday and thought I was going to have to call someone to pick me up I was so sick.
 
Sorry I didn't go with you yesterday bud but I just can't take the heat like you can.
Although it sounds as though you didn't take it very well either.
I got to see the ring come from the turf the other day though. What a rush. Good little coil you got there bud.
 
Nice finds, btw what is that other ring next to the gold ring?

You did well with that coil, but I'm convinced you can find silver with a set of divining rods if you had to! :bouncy:
 
Thanks for the write up Bryce. It sounds like a great little coil.
Sorry to hear you got a touch of the sun. Not fun. I made that mistake 18 months ago in similar conditions. Hunted for 12 hours straight and not even a food stop. Ran out of water but was on too good of a run to stop. ended up with dehydration. Took 3 weeks to get over. Although it was a record hunt ($118 in modern stuff) I'll never forget the lesson learned that day. keep them fluids up.
Congrats on the gold ring. they don't show up every day, but it brings a smile to your dial when you do.:thumbup:
Mick Evans.
 
it would be worth batling the heat for something like that. be careful though as others have said you really have to be cautious.
hopefully you are okay after the last hunt.
 
Wow Bryce, Looks like that coil is doing a great job.congrats on the gold ring and the silver. Gold is hard to find !!!! Good luck on your next hunt.:clapping:
 
Outstanding job, Bryce. Those are amazing finds from heavily pounded site.
 
Way to Bryce! Thats awesome all the loot you found!
I have that same coil for my V3, I found a gold ring with it earlier this year.
 
Aaron said:
Way to Bryce! Thats awesome all the loot you found!
I have that same coil for my V3, I found a gold ring with it earlier this year.
Thanks Aaron. it was a thrill i probably won't get to experience too often. I RARELY dig low hits:detecting:


OhioCoinHunter said:
Outstanding job, Bryce. Those are amazing finds from heavily pounded site.
Thanks Dan. It took a lot of hard work...but i was pleased.

G-Money said:
Wow Bryce, Looks like that coil is doing a great job.congrats on the gold ring and the silver. Gold is hard to find !!!! Good luck on your next hunt.:clapping:
Thanks G-Money

DoughBoyDoug said:
it would be worth batling the heat for something like that. be careful though as others have said you really have to be cautious.
hopefully you are okay after the last hunt.
Thanks Doug.

Mick in Dubbo said:
Thanks for the write up Bryce. It sounds like a great little coil.
Sorry to hear you got a touch of the sun. Not fun. I made that mistake 18 months ago in similar conditions. Hunted for 12 hours straight and not even a food stop. Ran out of water but was on too good of a run to stop. ended up with dehydration. Took 3 weeks to get over. Although it was a record hunt ($118 in modern stuff) I'll never forget the lesson learned that day. keep them fluids up.
Congrats on the gold ring. they don't show up every day, but it brings a smile to your dial when you do.:thumbup:
Mick Evans.
Thanks Mick. It brought some slobber along with the smile.:crylol:

Erik in NJ said:
Nice finds, btw what is that other ring next to the gold ring?

You did well with that coil, but I'm convinced you can find silver with a set of divining rods if you had to! :bouncy:
Thanks bro. The other thing is the little washer lookin' thing that was in the hole with the ring.

deeponedge said:
Sorry I didn't go with you yesterday bud but I just can't take the heat like you can.
Although it sounds as though you didn't take it very well either.
I got to see the ring come from the turf the other day though. What a rush. Good little coil you got there bud.
Thanks bro. Next time I hope you can make it.

Bell said:
Great write up Bryce. I know what you mean with the heat. I went out for three hours friday and thought I was going to have to call someone to pick me up I was so sick.
Thanks Bell. Yep...it's been a scorcher the last few days.

NealNoIN said:
Congrats on the gold Bryce! That must be a great coil!!!!
Thanks Neal. It is definitely a sweet coil...but the gold was pure luck. I just took a chance on a crappy.. but robust hit.

captn_se said:
Be careful in those high temps, high humidity days, Bryce!! You need lots of fluids to even be hunting in conditions like that. When you're feeling a little sick, you body is telling you something.....I know, I know......the addiction of the hobby, along with the mental freedom and peacefulness we all crave keeps us out there a lot longer than our bodies may want to be. A couple of years back, my friend had purchased a special sleeveless jacket that has the ability to keep the core of your body cool. The jacket is filled with cooling packs. Seem to work for him on really hot days. He didn't feel all run down after his hunt.

I appreciate your review of the 4.5x7. I remember putting on a 5" coil once on my machine......I just couldn't get over how small it was.

Congrats on all your oldies, my friend. Love the ring too!! It's really tough to find any gold in those trashy, aluminum filled parks!

Take care!
CAPTN SE
Dan
Thanks Dan. The heat seems to be back again this week here in IL.
The ring was pure luck...and nothing more:bouncy: I suck at the lower conductors.

jcooking said:
Nice post and congrats on the keepers and gold ring!:thumbup:
Thanks J.

Dave-IL said:
Youre nutso for getting out yesterday when it was in the high 90's but Im glad you did from the looks of all the finds..
Nice report you posted and I see Hercules helped like always.
Thanks Dave. Herk is always ready to lend a helping paw.:thumbup:

DirtFlipper said:
Thanks for the info, Bryce. After encountering a couple recent 'signal dense' sites, I've started wondering if something smaller than the 8x6 SEF would provide an extra edge. The X-5 came to mind, as did this one. But I was thinking the 4.5x7 might be close enough to the 8x6 that the smaller X-5 would make a better difference.

I do think that giving Ferrous a shot at those low conductors - in the right location - is well worth tolerating the pull tab ratios. To my ears, the pull tabs lack that 'robust' signal that a truly good target has, which to me is a smoother, bell-like tone, and will have that warble with any depth. Tabs just don't sound that good to me (and if shallow, don't warble either). Sure needs more concentration though.
Your welcome DF. As for ferrous sounds...they are a great weapon at many sites...and I know a few fellers' who kick buttocks that way.
No way I would recomend anyone switching back and forth when first learning the machine though. I'm a stickler about that fact...and it's one of the most important things I tell new users who pm me for advice. Learn the machine first...in the factory presets...or iron mask 22...then piddle with settings


niterider_58 said:
AWESOME FIELD TEST BRYCE, GLAD TO SEE YOUR STILL ALIVE IN THIS HEAT :stars:
Thanks Yeti. Barely...it's still so hot.
 
I have just recently found a new field to try, but you can't swing the coil for 2 feet without 10 hits! Been looking for a small coil and was considering the 4.5x7 you reviewed here. I just
stumbled across this review and I think ya made up my mind:thumbup:
 
Hello Bryce I read your review on the 4.5x7 coil about a month ago..........Needless to say I was impressed and purchaesd one myself. On my second outing with the coil I found 15 silver coins in an area 20' x 30' feet that I had already pounded pretty hard with the stock 11 inch and the factory 8 inch. My hunting buddy was so impressed he purchased one as well and has already found enough to pay for his. Also I might add that I found my first gold ring at this particular site with it. The site is an old carnival grounds and is loaded with rusty nails etc....

John
 
Thanks for the share, Bryce. Gold is always a welcome sight, for sure.

I always wondered if this 4.5x7 Excelerator coil for the Explorer would be able to pull out small gold like a 5x10 DD 18.75 kHz coil on my Xterra 70 since they are pretty much the same design albeit the Xterra is a single freq vlf. I'd like to try it out someday but for now I am still waiting for my 6x8 SEF from Kellyco (backordered :().

cheers...Keith
 
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