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300 Ohm Headphones Thread, microdredge ideas?

tvanwho

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Ok,

Reg, I sent off for 4 of the 300 ohm speakers .Can't beat the price of 1.25 + shipping from Electronic Goldmine online store.
Will these fit in my Detector Pro headphones or should I just get a pair of cheapo phones to modify? Will still need
help on doing the limiter circuit board?
FYi, the Electronic Goldmine also has tiny Geiger counters for 60 bucks that fit in the palm of your hand.Might be handy for us prospectors?
I also ordered a 24 volt electric water pump for 16 bucks to experiment with making a tiny electric dredge for sucking out small bedrock cracks? This thing puts out 35 psi pressure
so it might work with maybe a 1/2 inch hose and some sort of venturi unless somebody has a better idea?

-Tom V.
 
Tom,

I recommend you do this mod in stages because you can stop any time you are comfortable with the results.

Now, I also recommend you make changes to a cheap pair of headphones and not work on your regular ones.

Anyone who uses headphones for any period of time with their detector will agree a decent pair of coiled cord headphones are better than straight cord types. Personally, I like a set that have a longer coiled cord so I chose a set of Hamilton units. Their cord is 9' long which is the longest I have found in a regular set. The beauty of this brand is they can be found at very reasonable prices.

Because this brand is often sold to schools, the headphones have to have some durability.

Now, the two models I feel work well are the 5900's and the more common SC-7V models. The ear muffs are a little bigger in the 5900's but this model is a mono version. Both models can be purchased for about $20 or less even from ebay. Just be careful because some of the same models are being sold for a much higher amount. Just look for the bargains.

I recommend you check the headphones volume and speaker resistance before you begin. The reason is, on some of the 5900's you may be lucky enough to get a set of headphones with 300 ohm speakers already installed. Older units will have the higher resistance speakers. Newer ones will have 32 ohm speakers.

You have to be careful with the 5900's because they are a mono set and not stereo units and as such will not work on all detectors if the plug is fully installed. Some older detectors won't work right and at least one gold detector brand, the older FIsher Gold Bug 2 and mabe the earlier gold bug wont work right.

Once you have initially checked out the headphones, then the first mod is to simply change the speakers. Do nothing else at this time. The speakers should be pried out of the holders and the new ones installed. To get to the speakers is very easy. Remove the ear pad by simply pulling it off and then with a small screwdriver, pry each of the flat plates holding the speaker out of the earpiece. This will be obvious when you take the pad off as to what needs to be done.

Use a good glue to hold the new speakers in place. I prefer to use a good contact cement or I will make a paste of abs plastic using scrap abs plastic melted in MEK. This slurry actually bonds to the flat the speaker is attached so it will never come loose. When the glue is dry, simply pop the plastic flat with the new speaker attached back into place and reinstall the ear pads. One thing you can do before putting the headphones together is to find some cheap foam rubber maybe a half inch thick and cut a piece large enough to stuff in the ear housing before putting each side back together. This foam will had a little insulation from external noise. This foam isn't a necessity so don't worry if you don't have any foam at this time. The foam can always be added later if you feel it is needed.

Once the headphones are back together, you should find they are much louder.

Now, many people may find the headphones are more than loud enough with just this change so you might want to use them for a while this way before even considering making any more changes.

BTW, you should find these headphones now will come close to matching or even exceeding some of the much more expensive headphones people buy.

One final note, I do recommend you test the headphones as I mentioned before. This will eliminate a lot of problems should something not work right. BTW, I did find one set of headphones I received didn't work right. So, that is a possibility but it should be rare. On my set, the wire going between the left and right side was pinched and shorted by a screw holding things together. In my case, I removed the offending screw, wiggled the wire and reinstalled. Everything worked ok then.

Reg
 
GRAVITY WORKS WITHOUT BATTERIES or a pump,jet or any other contrivances some idjet forest cop could misunderstand-John-John
 
Nothing says Tom is in a forest or in California for that matter. Gravity does not work well if you do not have some drop and a lot of hose. All beside the point really if he is looking for electric pump driven dredge ideas.

Steve Herschbach
 
I would be in Indiana/Illinois/Ohio/Wisconsin areas, mostly on private property or bedrock rivers,etc.. There are only a few national forests hereabouts and I hear they do allow panning. I'd keep motorized anything out of those places or where the state DNR specifically says NO motorized gear like they do in Wisconsin. I have a vacuum hose/small jar arrangement that you suck on to draw a vacuum to suck up tiny amounts of sand but I do NOT want to take any chances on ingesting Girardia bacteria in the process.Been there, done that, ended up in the hospital. There is a guy on Ebay selling devices with a bellows type pump for sucking up material into a catch cup thing-Fissureman I think it is .He sells sucker sticks too.
I would just use a sucker stick, but always entertained the use of a small electric dredge as I could never get a larger one to work or even be practical with battery weight, and etc..-anybody wanna buy my 24 volt, 3000 rpm, 10 pound motor?
The hardware stores and Ebay had these small, high pressure, electric pumps, but they only put out like 5 gpm but at 30-50 psi like we need, but cost upwards of 50-80 bucks. So, I jumped on this one at $5.95 + shipping, just to experiment with.

-Tom
 
I know not kalif,he asked for ideas. And posted troubles by DNR folks and engines also so what the ????? I have a dozen ways to do what ya seek but don't need the troubles here sorry. PM and I'll be more than glad to help with your project as done 1,000s-----John
 
wouldn't one of those PVC crevice suckers work?? I built one and have had a lot of luck with it. Got about $15 into it and payed for itself ten fold since. Light weight, durable and effective. You can buy one from many prospecting supply dealers ($50 - 60) or just go to youtube and do a search. I found a video there that I got my design from. This can be used anywhere you can pan as there is no discharge if you use a bucket to squirt the contents into. I designed my own gasket on the end of the plunge rod. Instead of foam I cut several layers of leather and installed with threaded end cap. Let me know on this thread if your interested. I'll get busy with my camera and post some pics if this is something you might want.
 
My order had only 1 of the headphone speakers in it from Electronics Goldmine? Thought i had ordered 4 of them? Oh well, went back and had to get 8 more as the minimum order was $10 plus $6 for shipping.
Am also rebuilding my baby dredge this winter from 1.5 inch to 2 inch nozzzle and Honda 70 gpm self priming pump.
Where can I buy these headphones you are talking about Reg? Never heard of that brand? I will have to get my relative to help me with the soldering and such.I am a doofus at such things.

-Tom V.
 
There are several places where you can buy Hamilton headphones. Ebay usually has both models available. Be careful because the price can vary quite a bit for the same model. Also, you can google the brand and you will have several websites to chose from. If you are willing to buy more than one or two sets, then you can do quite well price wise.

Reg
 
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