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2500 vs explorer

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Had my 2500 now for 2 years, and very happy with it, but just wondering if anybody on this forum has used an explorer and what their impression was. Most of my finds with 2500 have all been 7 inches or less, but all explorer users seem to tout much more. Thinking of trying one out.
 
You apparently haven't come across anything deeper than that. I've pulled quite a few coins at 10 inches plus with my 1500 and 2500 and three Barber coins in one hole at 14 inches under a tree root. Don't buy all hype you hear. The 2500 in all metal will go as deep as anything out there.
Bill
 
First, let me make one little suggestion regarding the Explorer.... Save your money!!! You've already got a top of the line detector. Learn to use it to the limits of its capabilities and never look back. It sounds to me that you're at the beginning of the road that I took. I listened to all the hype and purchased an Explorer (not the Explorer II) a couple years back.
The 'circus calliope' of tones drove me to distraction. Pinpointing with the stock 10-1/2" coil was the miseries - nothing like the precision of the 2500. My usual recovery tool with the 2500 is an icepick and I can usually locate the target within the first 2 or 3 tries. With the Explorer, I nearly always use a trowel and end up cutting a plug. (In all fairness, going to the 8" coil helped dramatically in pinpointing with the Explorer.) The 2500 is as close to a turn-on-and-go detector as you can get with a detector with its capabilities. The Explorer has menu after menu and requires a thorough understanding of what each option is and does.
Someone once told me that I should understand my detector well enough that I could write an instruction manual for it. I could do that for the 2500 within a month. I still couldn't do it for the Explorer even after many hours of use.
Although I haven't completely given up on the Explorer, I use it less and less often as I find that I've only just seen the tip of the iceberg as far as the capabilities of the 2500. Adding the 5x10" elliptical and the 12" concentric coils to my arsenal gave me new insight into exactly what the 2500 has to offer. I'm now looking to get the depth multiplier to try my hand at cache hunting.
I have no doubt that the Explorer, in the hands of someone who knows it inside and out, can be an amazing machine and can lead its owner to some fantastic finds. But I KNOW that the 2500 can do likewise!!!
I've tried a lot of different machines including Tesoros, Bounty Hunters, Fishers, Minelab and Garrett models and yet the two I take on every detecting outing are always the same - the Garrett 2500 and the Fisher CZ-3D.
If this discussion hasn't changed your mind about trying the Explorer, buy mine - I'll make you a good deal!!! <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol"> <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol"> <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
 
It's fun to try different machines. The Explorer has a depth advantage in disc. You'll learn more about the machine you have by trying other machines. The 2500 is much easier to use and pinpoints much better. If you try one buy used, you can usually get most or all of your money back. I've got an Explorer for sale on the TD. The 2500 will be like my old bird dog it'll have a home til it dies.
 
The Explorer is deeper than the GTIs in disc. but the real advantage is picking through trash and seeing coins on edge.
and yes I have lots of hours on a GTI.
 
I really believe a unit is only as good as the operator. In reallity a 2500 is user friendly and the
non metal that ID's will go as deep as any..It pinpoints on a dime and has a better ergonomic design for comfort.
On the other hand an Explorer is a great machine, pinpointing can be learned, is only as easy or hard as you want it to be and for me the learning period was short.Those that can interpet tones and understand the unit can do very well with it. If one can handle the weight and ergonomics certainly a nice machine.
I should talk because I tried many, but if the 2500 works for you why fix whats not broke and indeed many cannot grasp the abilities of a Explorer.Do experiment with that all metal as indeed I dug a measured 13 inch Barber dime and ID was right on...Your call my friend...
 
Thanks everyone for the input. I guess I'm going to have to try using the all metal mode more often. Does anyone know if the sensitivity that you can adjust affects the all metal mode, or is it max sensitivity in all metal?
 
Mike. I have both the Explorer and the 2500. I used the 2500 for about two years and in that time, I feel I got just about everything I could possibly get out of the machine. It took about a year before I felt like I had the 2500 figured out to the point where I wasn't leaving anything in it's detection range behind. In those two years I found a truck load of relics. I have owned the Explorer for a little over a year now and I feel like I have a pretty good handle on the ins and outs of the machine. In the time I have used the Explorer, I have found a bunch of relics and coins. In another year I think I will fill that same truck up with the Explorer. Both machines are in the top machines on the market today. These top machines are so close in performance that I don't believe you will be able to say one is better than the other. I don't believe one is better than the other. They each have good and bad qualities. It all depends on your personal preferences. I hunt with a friend who I feel has the Explorer down to a science. When I hunted with Garrett exclusively, there would be days when he would come out on top and there would be days when I did. He could go over an area that I just hunted and pull out a couple of things that I missed and then I could do the same to him. I don't believe one machine was better than the other I just think one hunter was more in tune with his machine on that particular day. I like the Explorer for it's tone ID and the wide verity of coils that are available for different hunting situations. I can also play around with some custom settings to tweak things up a little. I like the 2500 because it is relatively easy to use and the true all metal mode will go deeper than the Explorer will in any mode and still ID the target pretty well. Now, what machine out of the six that I own would I rather use? The one that has the freshest batteries <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)"> . HH Tim
 
All-metal and discriminate each have their own sensitivity setting. To adjust the all-metal sensitivity, go into all-metal mode, then enter the menu and adjust the sensitivity setting there.
-LP
 
Thanks LP, seems like I didn't read that in the owner's manual.
 
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