Thanks for comments guys... bob,overall this has been one of the mildest autumn's i can remember. ... that being said the water temp is probably real close to 50 degrees.. i dont remember what 80 feels like.... goldstrike, i do have 2 other swimming areas as a plan B.. one i checked out today with a drive by..that lake is slightly drained with most of the swimming area exposed,but i know there are others that hunt that place real hard and there isnt enough trash there to hide alot of gold.. the other is up in hills where not many people own gold...both are an hr drive so i might get out to one those and try my luck.... george,the stones on this one tested negative for diamonds... ya know its the weirdest thing but i notice the sparkly and colorful stones are never diamonds but the slightly duller ones sometimes are, go figure..lol... happy hunting all.....