2 more hours on the SE

[greasecarguy]

Got out for a bit today. i do not believe i was actually using the factory presets before as i did not hold down the power button, however, today i did. ended up digging many things, 24 junk targets and 21 coins including 1 wheatie and a 64 Rosie. I was a bit lazy and made assumptions when hearing a tone in deciding if it was a multidirectional repeater or not. Obviously some were faint enough to know they were iffy. if they were deeper than most, i would dig them too.

just for Ha's, whilst deciding if or not to dig, i checked the digital readout screen and noticed (on a nail) the ferrous would change from very low to very high. being the optimist i am , I dug these hoping that if this combination of numbers would show up at any point, it was possibly a goodie. Do nice coins ever do this?


also, sometimes, what i expected to be a clad coin, did show up on the left side of smartfind when in pinpoint. i got the impression this is a key deciding factor for Bryce...being a dig deal breaker. Sure would like to change something to get a bit more depth. think i will bury something good 10-12" and see if I can hear it in preset.

thanks much for any feedback.

Aaron

 

[Hotcz70]

Aaron...when you pinpointed....a clad coin showed up on the left 50% of the smartfind screen which is blackened out?
I have never had that happen unless it was a deep coin hidden in with iron...or just plain deep enough that the ID wasn't accurate.

As for getting deeper coins.....I was not able to hit a 10" silver dime until I started running my sensitivity at semi auto 26.

As for burying something and hoping to hear it at 12" in preset....I have a silver dime buried at 8" in my test garden...and I'm sure it's down closer to about 9" now..and has been buried there for about 5 years now.

With the settings I use...it is a very iffy signal at best...but I am still able to pick it up. I get good tone from 2 or 3 sweeps...but the cursor flutters along the top to top center. The signal heard is intermittent too.

All soil is different...but the deepest I have ever found a coin is 12"...and that was a big Morgan silver dollar last year.

As for a silver dime or an injun'...I have found them as deep as 11" in IL and MO soil.

I doubt you'd be able to hear a freshly buried penny or dime at 12"...but I hope you do. That would be great.
Explorers don't like disturbed soil...at least that's what I've always been told.

One more thing...if you feel you are digging too much junk...you can always blacken out some more of the screen like some others have suggested.
I feel it's better to learn what some of those junk targets sound like though...especially since many injuns' hit down below the high coin range.
You will dig less trash with everything blacked out except for the top right 25% of the screen...but that isn't going to help you learn what the tougher hits sound like.
That is a choice only you can make. You will most definitely cut down the trash digging that way though

Good luck and keep us posted.

 

[montanagold]

I don't know if this helps but I only look at the screen out of curiosity. somehow if it is a coin you can hear it, Its weird how you can get used to the subtle changes in tones. I have had Barber dimes that were up high but also to the left. But I dug because it sounded sweet. I have had dimes bouncing along the top and V nickles bouncing along the bottom.

 

[Hotcz70]

I wouldn't know about those "bouncers" along the bottom though cause I'm too lazy to dig them.

I only do pretty good with the ones along the top

 

[greasecarguy]

Bryce, i guess I should have said that the pinpoint on one clad coin straddled the black and white on smartfind in preset. Also, Interesting that sometimes a reasonably hi pitched tone will show up in areas other than the top rt. 25%. Have you not experienced this?

You know, depth is so subjective. I should measure my shovel so that I can better gauge it. I certainly haven't got a handle on the depth gauge yet as sometimes i expect the target to be 6' and it is really 3 or 4".

Hate to be redundant, but when I went with my experienced friend, the large cent he dug appeared to be ~10". perhaps it was only 8" as he had dug a crater! I mean either he wasn't into pinpointing or is afraid to have to widen, but i would say his average diameter hole is ~ 10"! He did loose the signal temporarily and continued to look for it. not sure if it nulled or not, but he continued thinking it was a nail and wouldn't stop searching until he found the culprit. Maybe this fits into you "disturbed" ground theory. This would make sense.

I can deduct from your take that a larger "hunk" of metal (or coin) would allow the machine to sense it deeper.Hence the increased depth of the Morgan dollar you found. Is this what you are saying?

When i have the experience and comfort level to make adjustments, how much depth do you think I will gain?

Well i am becoming more and more familiar with the tones I want and spend more time passing up clad hoping to maximize time and find something deeper. By the way, my DFX friend showed up for a bit and i was happy to have a wheat and silver dime. He had only clad.

do you ever bottom out the depth gauge? I haven't seen this.

 

[Hotcz70]

Bryce, i guess I should have said that the pinpoint on one clad coin straddled the black and white on smartfind in preset. Also, Interesting that sometimes a reasonably hi pitched tone will show up in areas other than the top rt. 25%. Have you not experienced this?

Yes...and quite often. Sound is #1...and the cursor reaction time does not keep up with the sounds many times.

I can deduct from your take that a larger "hunk" of metal (or coin) would allow the machine to sense it deeper.Hence the increased depth of the Morgan dollar you found. Is this what you are saying?

I would think so...but then again I have dug little tennis shoe eyelets from nearly 10" down...and tiny little 22 caliber shells from 10" as well.
It makes sense to me though that a big chunk of silver like the Morgan dollar...would be "seen" by the SE easier at 10" than a tiny thin silver dime.
I have dug a ton of coins from 10" deep.....a few from 11" deep...and only one from 12" deep


When i have the experience and comfort level to make adjustments, how much depth do you think I will gain?

I see no reason after you have familiarized yourself with the sounds the SE makes...found a few deeper...7" coins...then actually heard the sound as a hunting partner finds a deepie 8" or so....that you will gain at least 2" of depth on your coin finds. after using some "hotter" more advanced settings from someone.


do you ever bottom out the depth gauge? I haven't seen this.

Yes....I'm happy to say I have honestly experienced it many times....just the tiniest of the tiny...little black line showing on the depth meter.
That always gets my heart racing

 

[eppillus06]

its the faint one's your after,could be on there side,machine might not be giving the depth,does not have to be loud to be a good signal,found various hammered at the faintest signal.when one's sitting in the field with a groat from 12 century upward's,it tend's to make that person keep a long smile for a long time.and go home with the best feeling in the world.run around the field once{not suggested}after finding a guinea only to find a bloke in my field the next week giving it the once over.so someone was watching was'nt they!.he got told to foff anyway,i dont do sneaky people.only met a couple in the detecting world,best avoided.