1st test whith the cibola

[Gunnar of bradford MN]

Got the cibola today , put it together , whoo is this thing light they should have called it the cibaloona its light as a baloon nice. i looked at the tiny control box and thout humm what bubble gum machine did this come out of? but its not in the way and my coat sleve will not re ajust the knobs for me when im not looking that happened whith the m-6 i would be going along and find out my sleve turned down the gain to 2 and i was missing things great disigne on this cibola the coil is a work of fine craftmanship looks like it was made by the space program very good quality well i did my first test an air test got a box and a dime and a pull tab put the pull tab on the left and dime on the right started staking 2x4s got to 4 two by 4rs and a 3/4 board thats 6 3/4" strong on a dime and the machine was not maxed out at all thats impresive to me thear is no doubt about it the cibola is deeper noticable deeper than my m-6 was the cibola got 7" good strong signal on a modern clad dime thats exelent consider the modern dime is the smallest of coins and 1/2 is nickle a hard aloy to pick up so if it can do that on a clad dime it will do better on a silver dime quarter ect ect thats why i do tests on cald dimes and SWEEP SPEED is fast very fast i was going slow and was not geting a signal i was bummed so i swept faster got it loud and clear OHHHHHhh the discrimination i put it to tab and silance total silance but it picked the dime loud and clear i placed the dime close to the tab thinking its going to mask the dime no way loud and clear i think im going to like this machine i will not miss the training wheels of the m-6 at all tone I. D VDI numbers in fact this behaves like it has tone I.D i can tell the diff between the tab and dime so defenetly not a step down but a step up and i have a great choice of coils thats all for now great machina

 

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[Monte]

[quote Gunnar of bradford MN]the modern dime is the smallest of coins and 1/2 is nickle a hard aloy to pick up so if it can do that on a clad dime it will do better on a silver dime quarter ect ect.[/quote]Gunnar, you are correct that a coin made of 100% nickel is difficult to get good responses on, and they are easily rejected. Around here (in the US) those coins are generally the Canadian dimes and quarters and a few others, or some other foreign coins.


Our US "clad" dime is made of 100% COPPER for the inner core, and the outside coating is 75% copper and only 25% nickel, which is used to give it that silvery color. That's not enough thickness or mass to give us any problems at all. Still, I agree that a clad dime, like a zinc cent (to simulate an Indian Head cent), make good test specimens.

Other than that, I will say I don't consider the Cibola to be a step UP over the M6, nor would I consider the M6 to be a step up from the Cibola. It is simply a 'STEP' we take along the way to learn and master any detector, specifically, or detecting in general. I like the Cibola, prefer the Vaquero, but don't think they have anything special over the M6. I actually wonder if you had a bad M6?

Keep us posted after you have spent a few hours out hunting some of the sites you have visited before.

Monte

 

[Canewrap]

I started about a year and half ago with a Cibola and I too liked the machine alot. Then about 7 months ago I got an MXT and thought I would like it better. Truth is, its been a bit of a struggle at times to tame that beast and get what I want out of it, mainly in some of the bad ground I hunt sometimes. My son is using the Cibola and frankly I'm reimpressed with that machine every time I help him. I just recently bought an Eldorado as a backup machine and one for my daughter and anybody I need a loaner for, to use. And, I'm starting to think that I will wind up going back to the Tesoro simplicity and lightweight approach. With the Cibola it was fairly easy after while to tell the difference between trash and a good signal. The only objection I had was that the Cibola didn't get very good depth in some of our ground because of the fixed ground balance. Also, I thought being able to hear the Threshold while I was hunting would keep me from wasting time if the machine wasn't working properly and would really help with deep signals. Now, I'm not so sure that its such an advantage as the MXT falses at times, making it difficult to tell if its really a deep signal I'm getting or just falsing. Also, pinpointing with the MXT has been less than a joy, where the Cibola was always dead on. Just don't know, anybody got a Tejon they want to trade for an MXT that has extra coils?

 

[Monte]

[quote Canewrap]The only objection I had was that the Cibola didn't get very good depth in some of our ground because of the fixed ground balance. Also, I thought being able to hear the Threshold while I was hunting would keep me from wasting time if the machine wasn't working properly and would really help with deep signals. Now, I'm not so sure that its such an advantage as the MXT falses at times, making it difficult to tell if its really a deep signal I'm getting or just falsing. Also, pinpointing with the MXT has been less than a joy, where the Cibola was always dead on.[/quote]Yes, some of us have to deal with very challenging ground and those who don't just sometimes do not understand.


With the MXT's nulling you don't know if it is a deep target or not, but with a silent-search detector, such as the Cibola or Eldorado, you wouldn't hear any nulling, and the nulling can alert you to the presence of iron or other rejected junk. Thus, you can slow down and go to a smaller coil and do what you can to deal with masking. The Eldorado will let you hunt in a true All Metal mode, and if the ground is relatively uniform in texture and consistency in mineralization, you might find it advantageous to hunt in All Metal and check a target signal in the Disc. mode. That's how I hunt over 50% of the time.

Personally, I don't have a problem pinpointing with most any detector, but that comes from field time and practice. I will say I don't like the stock 950 on the MXT and would be using a 6