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1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation iffy signals

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I've been running low on sites to dig at lately so I've had to go to places I'd already been over pretty well. So I've really been concentrating on the deep iffy signals and digging them all including all hits from nickel on up.
In about 2 12 hours today I dug alot of pulltabs and junk and only got a few good coins.
1964 silver roosie
1954 one pice from India
1 1940S wheatie
The 1964 silver dime is what I'd consider a 1st generation iffy. It was only about 4 inches and surrounded by junk. I got a broken high tone that rang through semi-consistant but not from all angles. The visual ID never went higher than indianhead range. But TONE ID shown through and it was an easy iffy and most of us wouldn't have hesitated to have dug it.
The foreign coin about nickel size but thinner was just a peep. One that could have been easily missed had I not been on full alert. It showed up nicely on the meter but bounced around quite a bit from pulltab to penny. Because I was going slow I stopped and went over it a few times and the rotated 90 degrees and it repeated although still very faint. I then dug down 7 12 to 8 inches to retrieve this one and the X1 didn't hit it until I had gotten quite a bit of dirt out of the hole(might have been on edge). I'd consider this a 2nd generation iffy because if you had your gain set lower than 8 or your hearing is not that good it would have been an easy one to miss. Since I was really in tune to trying to pull something good out of this pounded site and going real slow the "flutey peep" was enough.
I'd say the 3rd generation iffy would be one that is deep or on edge and may only give a micro peep with no worthy visual or Tone ID. These are by far the hardest and if you were to chase them all you'd probably dig a ton of iron and very small particles of scrap metal. About the only time I dig these is if I'm at a site that is very old and has produced some very deep targets, or if the 3rd gen. iffy is in very close proximity of a just dug cointarget. Especially if I'd just dug a very deep coin and I get one of those micro peeps within a foot or 3 of it. I've pulled quite a few goodies out like this that just plain sounded like crap and only hit from one angle.
I saw that the forum had been going slow for awhile so I thought I'd rant a bit about the "iffy" signal. Those of us who've swung the Explorer for quite a few hours mention it quite a bit when posting our finds so let's see what can come of this topic.
HH,
Greg
P.S. Almost forgot about the good target that hits somewhat high and the signal abruptly ends. Iron likes to do this but I noticed last week a deep wheatie did this to me but it repeated from all angles even though the signal was far from flutey. I'd put it somewhere between 1st and 2nd generation since repeating signals are about the easiest iffy to figure out. Had it not repeated well I probably would have walked on since it also hit lower than normal.
 
Hi Greg. I guess I don't have much to add to your findings for deepies-I don't have as many hours or experience with my explorer yet. Anyway, just curious what settings you were using, what coil and rate of your sweep speed. Thanks
 
Normal settings:
IM-10 Conduct
Sens. 28 semi-auto
Gain 7-8
DEEP+FAST on
If on the rare occasion I find a site that has only old targets in it and I want to dig everything I run different settings and go very slow:
IM-16 Ferrous
Sens 28 Semi-auto or 25 manual
Gain 10
DEEP and FAST on
I use the stock 10 12 coil and I adjust sweep speed according to amount of trash, nulling, and falsing. I swing pretty fast when threshold is humming along smoothly but slow way down when trying to work a trashy area or clean-out a site.
HH,
Greg
 
Remember the tone is exceptionally accurate and never even look at the meter until that telltale high silver tone rings out and stops me in my tracks.. Many forget also the digital numbers which are hard to fool..Watching a jumping gun-site is not my cup of tea and usually hunt in digital and then check with the other facets.Easier to analyze a target than to dig a deep hole for junk...whatever works but don't keep changing around as confusion will start to creep in.
 
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