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1786 Copper,Mailed Bust Facing Left

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fsa46

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I found one of these Connecticut Copper coins today and like the 1723 Woods Halfpenny I found a couple weeks ago it is in terrible condition. The only way I identified it was to place a sheet of paper over it and rub it with a graphite pencil. I did both the front and back and got a good enough impression to make a positive ID.

My question is : Why don't these Connecticut copper coins have a denomination listed in the book ?

I hope my luck changes one of these days and I can find a 1700 copper that's in decent shape.
 
Anything copper that is from 1700s can count itself lucky to not be green and crusty...If you can pick up any detail at all after being buried for 200+ years, it is a miracle...

HH,
 
GoGoGopher said:
Anything copper that is from 1700s can count itself lucky to not be green and crusty...If you can pick up any detail at all after being buried for 200+ years, it is a miracle...

HH,
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It was green and crusty and had to be wire brushed to see anything. Your point is well taken and I have a couple other finds within the last couple weeks that have no detail at all. Just being able to ID a coin like that is satisfying, but it would sure be nice to find one that is in better shape.
 
My Buddy got lucky last week finding his 1820 large cent that had a nice clear date, and still a LOT of detail left on it...I will be hunting with him on Friday, and hope to catch one of those myself...The area has a LOT of history dating back to 1760s...I am drooling in anticipation...:whites::detecting: :detecting: :detecting: :clapping:

HH,
 
To answer your question, the word "copper" means "cent" when referencing early coinage. I also have an argument with Tony Clayton's expert opinion on your Wood coin. The Wood Hibernia Half Penny was minted in Britain under contract with William Wood, a copper and tin miner, for use in Ireland. In contrast, the Rosa Americana was also minted by the same William Wood, during the same time period, for use in America. The obverse bust of King George I was facing right in the American version too. It was not accepted by most colonies here, and therefore was a failed business venture on Wood's part. They were more token than legal tender here. It makes more sense to me that you found a coin that was meant for the colonies than a coin made for Ireland. Do you think these are valid points?
 
407floyd said:
To answer your question, the word "copper" means "cent" when referencing early coinage. I also have an argument with Tony Clayton's expert opinion on your Wood coin. The Wood Hibernia Half Penny was minted in Britain under contract with William Wood, a copper and tin miner, for use in Ireland. In contrast, the Rosa Americana was also minted by the same William Wood, during the same time period, for use in America. The obverse bust of King George I was facing right in the American version too. It was not accepted by most colonies here, and therefore was a failed business venture on Wood's part. They were more token than legal tender here. It makes more sense to me that you found a coin that was meant for the colonies than a coin made for Ireland. Do you think these are valid points?
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They may be valid points, I do not know. I was only passing along what I was told and happy just to identify the coin.

I did however read the some of the history of the coin where the people of Ireland did not like the coin and petitioned the King to revoke Wood's patent because they did not like the coin, which the King did. The coins were then sent to the colonies.

Wood worked out a arrangement with the King to received a pension for the rest of his life for relinquishing the patent.
 
I found a 1810 large cent in a local park
It is the oldest coin I have found in almost three years of detecting
the side with the face was rough but the date was visible
the other side was crisp and my conclusion was it depends how the coin lays in the ground
But the question is, aren't both sides of the coin in dirt? so why is one side so much better
than the other side?
 
That's a good question with many possibilities. Maybe the more corroded side was facing up in the soil, therefore getting the brunt of the moisture. Hopefully, there wasn't another coin up against the coin you found and somehow you missed it. I've found coins stacked next to each other that kept the touching sides almost like the day they were lost.
 
Thanks 407Floyd
Ive considered the same theory amongst others
I just want to find more old coins so the theories can be tested
regards and HH
 
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