I went back to the training site where I found the 1784 2 reale Thurs. the ground was a pretty wet from todays and last nights rain so the signals were a lot better. the fairgrounds use this area as overflow parking for the fair. it ended 2 weeks ago so the modern coins were everywhere. did manage this little piece at about 7 in. I think it's from a 1780 thaler. it was in mint shape. the sides are still sharp