15x12" Sef v-rated just showed up....Deep Seeker!!!

[burlbark]

I have had it on my detector for 10 minutes and took it to the test garden. It has equal or better separation in my test garden than the d2. I also gained at least 1 1/2"-2 of depth on my silver dollar with iron square nail that is within 3". The vdi is a little jumpier but I have it buried at 13" and the grass is 2" high. I would also have to run the v3 at 15 to strongly hit it. I could run the SEF at Gain 7 and get a good signal. I was not able to do this with the D2.

The new SEF coils are said to be v-rated and I can run mine at 15 on the gain and run tx boost in deep silver. Air test on a clad dime appeared to be around 10". In 3 frequency I could run gain at 12 and tx boost on but no higher.

More testing to follow....and here is some more.

Air testing of the SEF.

Buffalo Nickle 10"

Wheat cent 11.5"

Winged Liberty head dime 12.5"

Silver quarter 1953 13"

1921 Silver dollar 16.5"

Silver nugget 1.3 ounces or so. 15"

14k gold 3gram vintage ring 10"

Silver pocket watch 19+"

Much to my surprise deep silver has become much quieter and time will tell if this will be my new favorite program to work with.

 

[Rob (IL)]

If the new SEF coils are V rated cut and paste where it says this from the Kellyco site. I can't find this stated anywhere on Kellyco's site. It is hard to compare a 15" coil with a 10" coil. 15" is too big and heavy for where I hunt. Rob

 

[Rob (IL)]

No V rating claimed.[attachment 171620 2010-08-26_202910.png]

Glad you got one that will use a high RX, some do and some don't just like non V rated Whites coils. We've discussed this before. Rob

 

[magic]

No V rating claimed.[attachment 171620 2010-08-26_202910.png]

Glad you got one that will use a high RX, some do and some don't just like non V rated Whites coils. We've discussed this before. Rob

Rob is right. I have one of the good ones but I know people that have gotten one that didnt work good at all.
On my 15x12, I have noticed that on depth readings, anything over 6 inches on the meter...add three inches to give an accurate depth.
Also, I have noticed with the sef coils that in my ground, silver over 9 inches deep (especially dimes) will come in with the 22.5 (blue) frequency dominate.

 

[burlbark]

No V rating claimed.[attachment 171620 2010-08-26_202910.png]

Glad you got one that will use a high RX, some do and some don't just like non V rated Whites coils. We've discussed this before. Rob

Rob is right. I have one of the good ones but I know people that have gotten one that didnt work good at all.
On my 15x12, I have noticed that on depth readings, anything over 6 inches on the meter...add three inches to give an accurate depth.
Also, I have noticed with the sef coils that in my ground, silver over 9 inches deep (especially dimes) will come in with the 22.5 (blue) frequency dominate.

Well both of you guys are right. However....... I called Kellyco's service department over a month ago and talked with one of their techs. He told me that the previous 12x15" sef coils where not v-rated but that SEF was already manufacturing new ones that where v3 compatible and it would take a couple of weeks.He told me to put the order in and that they would hold off on shipping a 12x15" until the new ones arrived. Well it took more like 5 weeks and I must say it is nice to have. It has made me thinking about putting away the PI DF for a while, beach hunting is just so easy.

Whether or not the tech new what he was talking about I do not know, I looked at my invoice and it does in fact not mention the v3 but rather the DFX/MXT/M6 . Though this information may not be updated yet. Whatever the case it works without a hitch and time to go test it.

 

[cheesehead2]

Maybe these are the new ones. I had ordered one. They said it was for the v3 so I bought it. I am non biased when it comes to coils. If someone can produce one that works better, it's mine.
Long story short. I sold it due to the D2 performed as deep but separated way better and was nice and light. But then again I also sold my 6x10 whites coil and kept the 5.3.
Are you running with the V3 or V3i ? I feel if anyone still has the v3, they need to get it in for the upgrade. Wish I would have listened earlier. Huge diff with the D2 and EMI.
Just my thoughts.

 

[burlbark]

Im running the v3i and I love finally being able to cover some ground. I am actually happy this coil does not become super sensitive on the small stuff. And from teh sound it made when passing over my silver dollar in my garden, I know I will not miss one unless it is covered with a axe head.

By the way I just recovered an axe head at 8-10" and 2 pennies out of my hit to death patch. The axe head kept coming up as a quarter at 1.5" and I dont pass up deep high conducting targets. Out came the shovel, and I dont know why I did not see this item before. Maybe the larger footprint helped

Sure gets heavy.

 

[ramases]

I have a 12x15 on my V3i. It is a few months old so won't be V-rated but it runs deep and well at Rx 10 and Sens80/60. It covers the ground quickly and reacts sharply on UK targets but it is too heavy for me to swing due to an elbow problem so I am selling mine .............. pity!

 

[Larry (IL)]

You might want to give the 10X12 SEF a try, a lightweight compared to the 12X15 and I have heard reports that the depth is not that much different than the 12X15, can't confirm that though. I use mine a lot even though not V rated and run RX10-12.

 

[Rob (IL)]

I've got no problem with SEF coils, but I have called and cannot get them to admit to V ratings. There is a difference between V rated and compatible. Until they say so I don't want guys running out and getting them because they saw they are V rated on this forum. [size=large]Believe me the day they are v rated it will be all over their site.[/size] Rob

[size=small]Regarding the use of SEF coils on V3, White's makes no official assessment of the suitability or performance of aftermarket accessories. However, aftermarket loops not specifically made for V3 will struggle a bit, especially at 22.5kHz, both with gain setting and with VDI accuracy. Even so, I've found the aftermarket loops I've tried -- Bigfoot, SEF, and Sunray -- to be very usable.

- Carl[/size]

 

[ramases]

You might want to give the 10X12 SEF a try, a lightweight compared to the 12X15 and I have heard reports that the depth is not that much different than the 12X15, can't confirm that though. I use mine a lot even though not V rated and run RX10-12.

I have the 10x12 SEF too and can swing that all day with ease. It has got me several medieval hammered silver coins in the last few months. Depth is good and sensitivity excellent. The Salt Mode has made it easier to run it with Rx/Sens almost as high as the stock coil.

 

[CyberSage]

Can you run it up to an Rx of 15 with TX Boost turned on? I can only get to 9 on the RX with the TX Boost turned on with mine. I would think that Kellyco would make a big deal about this on their web site if they were V-Rated. Man that would be to get my hands on a 10X12 SEF that was V-Rated.

 

[ramases]

Can you run it up to an Rx of 15 with TX Boost turned on? I can only get to 9 on the RX with the TX Boost turned on with mine. I would think that Kellyco would make a big deal about this on their web site if they were V-Rated. Man that would be to get my hands on a 10X12 SEF that was V-Rated.

No, can't generally run TXB on and Rx @ 15 on the SEF but I had a hunt a few days back whereground conditions etc must have been ideal as I was able to get to about 12 with TXB on and Sens at 85/65. Generally though I run as above without TXB.

 

[Rob (IL)]

Carl, are you listening? Rob

 

[burlbark]

Can you run it up to an Rx of 15 with TX Boost turned on? I can only get to 9 on the RX with the TX Boost turned on with mine. I would think that Kellyco would make a big deal about this on their web site if they were V-Rated. Man that would be to get my hands on a 10X12 SEF that was V-Rated.

I can use tx boost and gain at 15 but only in deep silver from what I have checked.

I can run as high as 12 and tx boost in 3 frequency, let it be noted that I can run gain at 7 and tx boost off and still find my silver dollar in my test patch at 14". I might be able to tweak it to 15 with tx but I have not tried yet, later today I should get to it.

 

[Rob (IL)]

I can use tx boost and gain at 15 but only in deep silver from what I have checked.

That's because non V rated coils have their problem with the 22.5 frequency. Guys have done well with the Bigfoot but only using the 7.5 frequency. VDI are usually not accurate. Rob

 

[yazoo]

Just put your detector in 22.5 freq. and swing it over gold, it should ring in if accepted. My 10X12 wont make a sound, picks up nothing in 22.5. I would have to conclude it is not V rated . Now my 6X8 it will hit just fine in 22.5.Thus I figure it is close enough to being V rated. I think it comes down to luck of the buyer at this point. Yazoo

 

[Rob (IL)]

OK Mike, good to hear from you. Rob

 

[burlbark]

I can use tx boost and gain at 15 but only in deep silver from what I have checked.

That's because non V rated coils have their problem with the 22.5 frequency. Guys have done well with the Bigfoot but only using the 7.5 frequency. VDI are usually not accurate. Rob

In the past I cannot use my D2 with 3 frequency gain at 15 and tx boost on. It really depends on conditions.

But you guys are right, they sent me what I did not want...... I specifically told them to make sure that it was v-rated and put that on the order form. It works good with all other frequencies but will not allow me to turn the gain up past 6 in single frequency 22.5. If I turn the disc way down it helps but I lose to much depth.

I may be getting the same depth out of this frequency though with disc at 85 and gain at 6 running the single frequency, as apposed to the d2 and 15 on the gain with disc at 85, this will have to be tested.

I am upset with the service dept and Kellyco in general now. I have a couple more days to decide what I want to do. It is nice to cover so much ground easily but it sucks knowing that it is not up to the standards that they have told me and assured me.

 

[JW]

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