S.TexasKevin
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Given the same coil size which goes deeper ??
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1270/CZ-21/CZ-3D
- Thread starter S.TexasKevin
- Start date
Keith...gotcha.
I would say, based on you stating mineralized sand as well as wet/dry conditions, the CZ's due to their ability to manually ground balance. Once you state the word wet, then the CZ21 goes to the top due to being completely waterproof.
The thing to remember with a CZ20 or CZ21 is they are locked in 'salt mode', so they will not be as sensitive to smaller, lower conductive targets. The 1270 may have the edge on those targets.
I have used my CZ6a since it first came out, almost exclusively with the 8 inch coil ( I have all the other coils including the Sunray FZ12 ) and I think the 8 inch coil is the all around best coil for that unit. That is me, and I base that on finding the most and best stuff with that coil ( or course, the laws of probability are on the 8 inch coils side since I use that 90% of the time !!).
Thing is, all the units you mention are great, and each one will out do the other in a specific application. For all all around use, the CZ3D is probably the best, since it has a meter, 4 tones, manual GB, enhanced and salt mode, and you can hip mount it or put it in a bad for wading and foul weather hunting.
I would say, based on you stating mineralized sand as well as wet/dry conditions, the CZ's due to their ability to manually ground balance. Once you state the word wet, then the CZ21 goes to the top due to being completely waterproof.
The thing to remember with a CZ20 or CZ21 is they are locked in 'salt mode', so they will not be as sensitive to smaller, lower conductive targets. The 1270 may have the edge on those targets.
I have used my CZ6a since it first came out, almost exclusively with the 8 inch coil ( I have all the other coils including the Sunray FZ12 ) and I think the 8 inch coil is the all around best coil for that unit. That is me, and I base that on finding the most and best stuff with that coil ( or course, the laws of probability are on the 8 inch coils side since I use that 90% of the time !!).
Thing is, all the units you mention are great, and each one will out do the other in a specific application. For all all around use, the CZ3D is probably the best, since it has a meter, 4 tones, manual GB, enhanced and salt mode, and you can hip mount it or put it in a bad for wading and foul weather hunting.
MarkCZ
Well-known member
I've been around a couple of the CZ's and the 1270 is deeper!
But, the 1270 is a different breed of detector than the CZ is. The CZ is set up as a coin hunting detector, with the ID meter and different tones.
The 1270 doesn't have a meter! its a relic hunter's dream detector and I believe that it would cross over to coin hunting better than the CZ would to relic hunting.
Mark
But, the 1270 is a different breed of detector than the CZ is. The CZ is set up as a coin hunting detector, with the ID meter and different tones.
The 1270 doesn't have a meter! its a relic hunter's dream detector and I believe that it would cross over to coin hunting better than the CZ would to relic hunting.
Mark
S.TexasKevin
New member
I appreciate all the responces. I did not mean to get scientific though. I have all three and I believe the CZ-3D and the CZ-21 goes as deep as the 1270, at least my 1270, and I just received it,(1270), back from Fisher from repairs. I do remember a certain individual whom hunted Palo Alto Battlefield with us (by request of the National Parks and USGS Services) that seemed to be digging smaller and deeper items with HIS 1270, then I did that day with my '21.
WV62
Well-known member
S.TexasKevin said:
I am thinking being you have all 3, you could set them up and air test all of them and give us some numbers back. I would suggest that all be tested the same so being that I used a quarter and gave you my number off my 1270 before it went back to FT for repairs. I haven't re-tested it after repairs. You could do a quarter on yours and then maybe something like a large nail or bolt for the relic hunters.
Just a thought,
Ron in WV
S.TexasKevin
New member
I think I will try it and see. It will determine a comparison of your 1270 and mine anyhow. I have believed that my 1270 has not been getting what Kieth's and another buddy does get depth wise.
S.TexasKevin
New member
Wow, you lost 6"-7", I think mine was calibrated on the same bench, whereas my friends is like yours performed before you sent it in. I can see where your previous quarter test would give the 1270 the advantage, however if mine is testing at the 9"-10" range, my CZ's will out perform the 1270. What you say Kieth??
S.TexasKevin
New member
Wow, you lost 6"-7", I think mine was calibrated on the same bench, whereas my friends is like yours performed before you sent it in. I can see where your previous quarter test would give the 1270 the advantage, however if mine is testing at the 9"-10" range, my CZ's will out perform the 1270. What you say Kieth??
MarkCZ
Well-known member
Big Brother (WV62) I'm thinking there is something out to your house that is killing your detectors! I just checked out my 1266 and got the below results.
I just set mine up in the kitchen and out to 6" I didn't have any audio drop,
a little drop @7"
but still good @8"
descent @ 9"
Still there @ 10"
Get'in really iffy @11"
Discrimination set to 5 (Not All Metal)
Sensitivity pulled out, turned full clockwise. (minimum full or I guess you could say 50%)
Went ahead and checked nickles,
Same as the quarter!
Copper Pennies/clad Dimes
Lost about an inch.
Keep in mind that with the above settings would make these targets good enough to dig! and not a questionable or even bad meter ID reading.
Mark
I just set mine up in the kitchen and out to 6" I didn't have any audio drop,
a little drop @7"
but still good @8"
descent @ 9"
Still there @ 10"
Get'in really iffy @11"
Discrimination set to 5 (Not All Metal)
Sensitivity pulled out, turned full clockwise. (minimum full or I guess you could say 50%)
Went ahead and checked nickles,
Same as the quarter!
Copper Pennies/clad Dimes
Lost about an inch.
Keep in mind that with the above settings would make these targets good enough to dig! and not a questionable or even bad meter ID reading.
Mark
My CZ 3D was re-calibrated and would hit a Dime at 11.9 inches in Florida soil.
In a in house air test 11. 5 inch on a Dime and just over 12 on a Quarter
In salt mode it lost about 1/2 inch on Hi coINS and 1 inch on a Nickle.
Salt mode should be the same as a CZ 21.
My F75 SE in boost mode was about a 1/2 inch better than my CZ.
In a in house air test 11. 5 inch on a Dime and just over 12 on a Quarter
In salt mode it lost about 1/2 inch on Hi coINS and 1 inch on a Nickle.
Salt mode should be the same as a CZ 21.
My F75 SE in boost mode was about a 1/2 inch better than my CZ.
HaroldILL.
Active member
I just got a Los Banos 1121 CZ-3D Back from Tom who said it is the hottest 1121 he had tuned and will hit a clad dime at 4.8 sens.0 disc. and volume 5 at 12.2'' And 12.75 on a quarter. He said he recomends I keep it! I said don't worry I will be buried with it!