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12-43 ?

3RINGER

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Was reading some post and replies and saw were some had a dime come in at 44-46. If I see a 43 I think dime sometimes a 44 but not often. 46/47 I think Quarter more times than not 46.

Could this be due to the diff. ground each of us hunt or maybe the program I like to run in? I do know that other targets will mix it up some but I'm talking about a lone clad dime 3-5'' down.

Just wandering.

HH
 
I think the different soils can make one or two number differences .Also if coin is tilted they will change.I have silver dimes hit at 45-46 most times and clad dimes at 44-45 .Silver quarters 47-48 and clad at 46-47 most times.This is in factory coins program with stock coil,Ray.
 
I was hunting close to a chain link fence and found a silver dime that read 47 co, maybe the amount of iron/minerals in the soil throws it off.

JBE
 
When I see 12-43, I KNOW it is a solid copper penny, most of the time. Never had a dime read 12-43 except maybe a few times. If 12-44, then I KNOW it is a clad dime, most of the time. If I read 12-45, I KNOW it is a silver dime, almost always.

12-46 I KNOW is a clad quarter, usually. 12-47, I KNOW it is a silver quarter. MOST of the time that is. SOunds as if I have the same problem almost everyone else has. It really isn't that big an issue. I'll dig it anyway if it reads in the 43 to 51 readings.

Yes the ground may play a part in the readings. I'm not an engineer and have not designed the programming for VID on the E-Trac. So I can't say for sure.

My E-trac has been pretty solid as far as reading go. The sounds have been set in concrete, welded in place and so rock solid as to be trusted absolutely. Except for really rusted bolts, nails and pop cans that is. Then the 180 degree rule sets in. If it changes when I move 180 degrees and sweep again and the numbers change, then I know it is not a coin and something else. Like a can or rusted bolt.

I often do not even look at the screen now and just know what it is by the sound. Yeah, the screen is nice, the numbers are nice, the graph is nice, but sound is KING!!!!!
 
Different E-Tracs seem to give slightly different results, so I am thinking the detector settings as well as depth and the ground play a role. The important thing is that on your machine the numbers should be more or less consistent.

A 12-43 for me is either a 50s era wheatie or a copper memorial. Clad dimes and copper memorials are 12-44. Silver dimes are 12-45 and 12-46. One day I dug three silver dimes, all 12-45, but usually they are 12-46. I don't mind digging clad dimes and quarters along with the silver. That clad adds up fast when you're not wasting a lot of time digging pennies. :)
 
I think some it plays into the dime itself. The more worn it is the lower the number for me. I have dug barbers that rang up at 9-43 and the seated dime I got a few weeks ago was a solid 12-43 at 4 inches. 90% of the silver rosies I have dug have came in at 13-46. If the tone is good and the depth is right for the area I am hunting I dig it. Thats why I dug 100 coins last weekend. Ended up with 3 indians 17 wheaties, 1 merc, 2 rosies and a barber, along with numerous clad coins. Sometimes you just dont know due to soil conditions and the amout of crap in the ground. TMAN...
 
[size=large]It differs where ever I hunt. There is only one spot around here that I have hunted ,that the numbers and sounds have been what I expected...IE: 12/45 high tone 5"-8" deep was a silver dime most of the time....I have hunted several places around my area that have all been a little different. Today I dug a merc that came in 12/44,another came in at 12/45,and a rosie that came in 12/46-47 one dirrection,and 12/44-45 the other,,,,all were 5-7" deep.....Last year I dug a Barber Quarter at 9" and came in at 13/38-39 and sounded awefull...High and medium audio sqreech that I thought might have been a wheatie,but,was a BarB-Q with tabs in the hole.....I also dug a barber dime from 9" that gave an aweful sounding sqreech and bump,with a 9/34....I could have sworn it was an indian head,but the high audio sqreech made it interesting,and was suprized to see silver in the hole.
Very few places will give ideal numbers,and audio can fool me at times,but I am more trusting of the high audio than I am the numbers expecialy at depths of 6" or more.
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time in the ground seem to follow that same pattern?? By that I mean the silver is deeper and the clad is shallower? I guess I'll take all of the quarters and dimes I can find. It all adds up to buy batteries, accessories or to buy a nice "proof" coin or gold piece. Good luck and HH. Bob.
 
Last night I dug a 1900-s Barber Dime at 5 inches that came in at 12-39 repeating in a farm field.....muddy....cause of rain. Nothing like the feeling of waist high wet corn stalks rubbing on your potatoes all night to give you that warm fuzzy feeling.:wiggle:
The ID is not like an Explorer, coin orientation, depth, moisture, mineralization, iron and the little Irish Dude from the Lucky Charms box seem to make the values skew all over the place, so be careful what you ignore.
If you pass up the zincolns or tabs, you are probably missing some silver.
 
As always, thanks for the info guys. just wanted to see what others were getting on that. today I went out and hit a 1942 D merc at about 4 or 5''. rang in at 12-45 hard and never let go with good sound in all directions.

digitrich
LOL thanks again for the info
 
...........thing is, targets change when they're in the ground. As targets get deeper, their FER values increase as the ETrac follows them through the soil. A coin which air tests an FER 12 value might very well have an FER value 20 or 22 when 8-10 inches in the ground. Unless a coin is fairly shallow, it won't give you an FER 12 value.
So many times I have dug good two way signals with high FER values to find that they only drop into the FER 12 line when out of the ground. Minelab have made the Conduct more stable on the ETrac, that's why most of us hunt in Conduct sounds.
Again, these can fluctuate with ground conditions.......go by sounds, not numbers...........it's the only way guys.

Gaz
 
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