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10Khz vs 12Khz. Does it really matter?

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DetectorOCD

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I am considering getting a Compadre even though I already have a Silver Umax. Would that be a waste? Will 2Khz really make that much difference on the small stuff?

Thanks guys!
 
personally I would spent the money on other coils or save for an upgrade MD. My silver is serving me well... have I messed small gold chains? well I dunno,,, in my area there is not allot of ANY type jewelry,, but I find some here and there ( I feel I find all there is to find pretty much, ). Go down to a dealer with different sized stuff to test the Compadre and compare to your Silver. Most small chains have a good sized snap or locket on there and the Silver hits on them. I'm wanting to try a widescan DD on mine so that's why I would spend the cash on coils,, JMHO,,,, HH.... It's really more about the hunter than the machine,,, and I can live with missing the really fine stuff the Silver may miss,,,, (easy to say when you dont KNOW what your missing,, if you get a Compadre and post next week a large pile of small gold chains I may change my mind !!!)
 
Thanks for the reply, Grouser. I used to be into R/C Crawling too lol. Man that is a money pit now. I used to have an Ax-10 and a TLT based rig. :)
 
It matters if you have over 1,000-hours on a VLF machine, know the language of the machine and coils, and are using the right headphones. Each Tesoro machine is designed as a specific tool. A ballpeen is not a sledge, but in unskilled hands does it matter which hammer is used? In my experience, the majority of metal detectorists never really get to know their machine's language - fluently. They know the general sounds, but never really master the subtle differences in tone and sound level that seperates the best from the rest. Yes, it matters. I have seen operators with Minelab pulse induction machines walk right over a sub-gram gold nugget, which is found moments later by a skilled operator with a Tesoro VLF machine. In truth, you need to know what it is YOU are hoping to find, and then get the machine that is built to help you realize that dream. Kinda like college right? What is your major? Meteorites? Civil War relics? Beach hunting? Gold nuggets? Park hunting? All of the above? Thanks for asking for my opinion DOCD! - Terry

http://www.TerrySoloman.com
 
I like to hunt tot lots and parks, and I figure that the Compadre would do that exceptionally well, but I was curious if it would do it better than my Silver Umax. The other idea was to let the kids use it, so I was curious if it is lighter than the Umax.
 
I've got two thoughts on this that sort of counter each other. If you put a 5.75" coil on your Silver, you have a setup nearly identical to the Compadre. On the other hand, if you purchase a Compadre you'll have a second detector for back up or loaner and can hit the places where the smaller coil is a plus without having to change coils. I don't personally feel the small difference in detecting frequency makes all that much difference, all else being more or less equal. If you decide you would like another detector in your stable, you get a lot of bang for the buck by purchasing a Compadre. My two bits
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Interesting and valid thoughts/responses.----Here's my "take" on it.---You already have the Silver----a new Compadre (with 5.75 coil) costs $151 delivered.-----a new 5.75 coil for the Silver costs $79 and you MAY have a shipping charge on the coil.----So for 72 bucks more (instead of/rather than) buying the small coil for the Silver)----you get a new detector (Compadre) WITH the 5.75 coil and have (another) great little machine to use backup, loaner---whatever.------True the 5.75 coil is hard wired on the Compadre and coils can't be changed on it (without a modification)---but who cares?----It's a GREAT little machine with that coil anyway.----------Del
 
great "'sidewalk easement " hunter!..just sayin!

(h.h.!)
j.t.
 
D&P-OR said:
Interesting and valid thoughts/responses.----Here's my "take" on it.---You already have the Silver----a new Compadre (with 5.75 coil) costs $151 delivered.-----a new 5.75 coil for the Silver costs $79 and you MAY have a shipping charge on the coil.----So for 72 bucks more (instead of/rather than) buying the small coil for the Silver)----you get a new detector (Compadre) WITH the 5.75 coil and have (another) great little machine to use backup, loaner---whatever.------True the 5.75 coil is hard wired on the Compadre and coils can't be changed on it (without a modification)---but who cares?----It's a GREAT little machine with that coil anyway.----------Del
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I think this gentleman just nailed it perfectly.
 
I have experienced one more thing besides fine gold chains with the Compadre: rings standing on edge. It gives a double blip like a coin on edge whereas the surface area on the smaller rings at that angle is not enough to give anything but a quick blip like a reject target on the others. While saying this, I WILL have to agree with some posters that the larger rings that all detectors DO give a good signal on actually bring in the big money. Last week one of the tiny child's gold ring I found only brought an offer of $10 at a pawn shop.
 
DetectorOCD said:
I like to hunt tot lots and parks, and I figure that the Compadre would do that exceptionally well, but I was curious if it would do it better than my Silver Umax. The other idea was to let the kids use it, so I was curious if it is lighter than the Umax.
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Both Detectors weigh the same according to Tesoro's website info..............HH...Tab.
 
I wonder how the preset sensitivity of the compadre is.. is the silver much deeper when sharing the same coils? This week i tested [benchtest] the amigo II which is the same as compadre against the whites classic 5ID. Modified Amigo for interchange coils with 12x10 concentric coil and the whites with 9'' spider coil and full sensitivity. Both had more or less the same depth on small coins and gold rings. Of course have no idea how they would do in the field.

Thanks, Eric.
 
I think we all think the Compadre is not a deep machine and the reason is the coil itself... that coil on my silver will lose depth,, Because you cant change the coil on the Compadre,,, ( you can but you need to do a mod), then you would prolly have the dame depth as the Silver JMHO
 
Yes,

It DOES matter!

EXAMPLE:

The 12 khz. Compadre is HOTTER on gold than the 10khz Silver..
And the Compadre 180 ED discrimination, combined with a smaller 5 3/4" coil, makes it even HOTTER yet!!

If you ever read Tabdog's posts,you'll know the difference by all the small gold he rakes in with his little Compadre,
(that other detectors simply glide right over!!!)

For the price,there is no other detector capable of small gold finds than a Tesoro Compadre!
 
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