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1 little, 2 little....6 little indians

Bill Ladd

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I hooked up with John this weekend as he has wanted his own shot at some "Irish Shine", the rare button featured by Mark Parker in the new W&E magazine. His ancesters were Irish immigants, & I also wanted to return to the area for several reasons. One to take photo's of the nearby cemetary stones to try to trace who brought the button here through geneology sites, and also because I felt there were coins left in the ground @ this cellar hole site. Thusfar only a beat up shield nickle had surfaced. But, this site has perhaps the most iron signals of any we know of. Running all metal sounds like a machine gun, especially in the back of the hole.
Here's John finding out the hard way how tough it is to work though the heavy iron behind the Colonial cellar......
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I started out with the T2 in the front of the hole near the well where there's iron but not as thick.
My first signal getting down & dirty in the brush was a very worn down V-nickle, dated 188-something. I followed that up with this circa-1830 1 pc. button backmarked "Warrented Rich Orange". This mark became visable after a quick lemon juice soak.
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I wanted to try my a 1 tone iron setting on the T2 & went behind the foundation into the thickest iron. But it was just far to noisy, and some copper roof flashing was a real problem.
So I went back to the "front" of the home & down a cart road that next to the well. I got a strange "double beep" that usually means iron, like a bent nail, but after hearing all that iron I decided to investigate. I was surprised when I picked out a nice looking 1857 first year Flying Eagle cent in the dug dirt..
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I took some photo's like this one above and then I moved on & detected along a stone wall. I looked up & saw I had left the flyng eagle hole open so I walked back over with the detector to kick in the dirt and luckly swung over the dirt again. I got another nice coin tone in the 70's.....
There in a second dirt pile I had made was an 1870 Indian head. Cool, 2 coins in one hole.
I showed John the 2 coins & was again about to kick the dirt in but went over the hole & heard a faint singnal that jumped from the 60's to the 90's. John's Minelab he got a weak signal. I widened the hole some more and once I got more dirt out......another Indian Head, this one a good looking 1866. Now, I'm really wondering if there's more. I stick the coil in the hole & get another 70's signal. Out comes another! This a semi-key date 1872! Now I really open up the hole wide.....
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Sure enough, 2 more coin signals in the dug dirt......& 2 more Indian head's. An 1881, and an 1859 First year "fat" type. 2 of them seemed stuck together, like they were in a lost change purse or something that had since rotted away. I open the hole up even bigger & deeper to be sure there wasn't a cache of 'em or something. Here is the 6 coin small cent spill all lined up. They are uncleaned & look decent being in a sandy soil...
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When I got home & looked in my "small cents" coin folder, 4 of the half dozen spill I needed to fill holes in the book. Plus the 1857 eagle & 1872 Indian I DID have were poor shape. So, I had 6 new coins for my book.....
We worked through he iron a little more pulling out a few more relics such as a fork, musketball, suspender part, heel plate, etc......
The worn V-nickle in lower right...
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Though it rained a little, we had a fun day. I had never dug that many coins in 1 hole, & with all that excitement I never got the C$ w. small coil out of the bag......
Next time....
HH,
Bill
 
Don't think I've seen a dug flying eagle in that good of shape before, plus looks like the regular IH's will clean up well with hydrogen peroxide.

Were the faint signals from the other coins because of depth or mixed in iron? And do you feel the T2 was better than the explorer?

I've had some spills with the explorer that I've slowed way down and dug any crappy signal in the vicinity; most were signals that I would never ever have dug unless I had just found a good coin nearby, generally the bad signals were because of the abundance of iron.

Best spill was two LCs with two fatties and a silver three cent.

Chris
 
That Eagle is too cool! Man I want to dig one of those! :cry: From the sounds of that place, maybe you should give that C$ and small coil a workout before you write it off! Great finds guys!
 
Love the flying eagle and gotta love ground that is that kind to copper.

Tom
 
Nice finds Bill. Let Tony know if you are going to hunt with us at Fredericksburg. I was told yesterday they will start moving dirt at any time, the first cut will be the main road through the entire property. This site has not been hunted in a long time :super:. Frank
 
At first I thought the double blip was from a nail or something down in with the flying eagle. Now not so sure. I think digging my original hole one of the indian heads fell down into the bottom of it. Sometimes a big open hole will give a false reading too, & while John was right there I asked him to swing over it & just agreed it was a faint signal. Me having the numbers was getting jumpy coin readings. It was not an Explorer, John dives & since it was raining brought his Excaliper. Decent idea, as you can see I had to bag up the T2. Then the ramaining indians came out of the side walls as I widened the hole.....
I made sure I went down as far as I could to make sure there was not a jar of 'em down there or something but just hit a natural gravel layer & knew I was done......
HH,
Bill
 
I may have to let you guys get the goodies when they put the road in. I had forgotten I have 2 vacations coming up. Florida in Feb, then DIV the end of March. But, when they go in & really rip out all the tree's I'll probably be persuaded to drive down for a weekend if the relics are really flying :D
Thanks for asking,
Bill
 
We are also planning on hunting there on Thursday prior to the DIV. They are suppose to have it all torn up by then. Let Tony or me know so I can get your name on the permission letter if you want to hunt. They are also doing some new grading soon on the other site. You know where. We are going to drive up from my house real early on Thur. morn. and hunt all day and then go to the Pre-hunt meeting. Also we will be staying at the HI in Warrenton. As Tony said it's free thanks to my points. Frank
 
oh my bill those are some awsome coin finds i cant wait too get back to finding some more too.
 
the weekend of the 18th I may be able to sneak down if it has been stumped out good then. Maybe you & Tony can give it a trial before then & see. Monday the 20th is Presidents Day I have off. So, that 3 day weekend that might work.......
 
Will keep you posted on the progress. They are waiting on a permit. We went on a wild goose chase on Sat. in Hopewell and had to use the old camp as a backup. Still found a few relics. Frank
 
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